Yaqoubi and Nadwi

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    and here he says something else about 'aqidah' and it appears that iqbal's poetry is nass for the nadwi.

    nincompoop.

     
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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    akram sounds as stupid as an ordinary joe blogger 'salafi' and clueless about ash'aris or maturidis in that tahawiyah class of his, which suhaib webb was fawning upon like teenager.

    only in our age of ignorance can such mediocrity be celebrated and hosannas sung for third rate 'scholars'...

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    [ask ghulam, he has so many of those. this one from one of his old posts.]
    download this in case the ministry of truth wakes up.
     
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  3. Shihāb Dīn

    Shihāb Dīn New Member

    nadwi's rhetoric is so funny, i had to post.

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    from shiplu miah's notes on nadwi's TaHawiyyah class:

    1. "The Asharis and the Mu’tazillas went into two different extremes."

    i hope he isn't suggesting a contradistinction: ice is cold VS fire is hot; mu'tazilis say x VS ash'aris say -x. in which case, he has evidently misunderstood the school of sayyidi imam abu Hasan al asha'ri. his methodical arrangement of the belief system of the pious salaf into a canonised creed for the ahl as sunnah wal jam'ah wasn't just a knee jerk reaction to mu'tazili tripe, nor a paroxysm for attention. this dunce should read ibn 'asakir's 'tabyiyn kadhib al muftari':

    https://archive.org/details/Tabyin_Kathib_Almufteri

    2. “Whenever the Asharis and Matrudis differed from the Salaf, they could not give any satisfactory answers”

    did either differ from the salaf? that's a loaded statement, mr nadwi; its a shame you didn't cite anything to lend stability to your erroneous claims. do you not realise that the very text you hold in your hands accommodates both the asha'ri and maturidi schools? and i assume you mean in matters concerning the attributes of Allah; if so, kindly direct towards such differences from the following work:

    https://archive.org/details/Kitab_tawhid_Materidi

    3/4/5. The Quran is not just the “meaning” from Allah, It is the “meaning and the wording”. “You cannot say that “Qul hu Wallahu Ahad” is the meaning from Allah but not His words” (A.Nadwi) Jibraeel (AS) brought the message with BOTH, wording and meaning.

    true

    6/7. “The Asharis have a similar problem like the Muttazilis in relation to Asma wa Sifaat... They say Allah has only eight eternal attributes. Who told you this??! Is it from the Quran or Sunnah??!” (A. Nadwi) When the Asharis make all these attributes into one or seven, they are limiting Allah."

    any first year nizamiyya student who has perused through a basic primer in tawHid is able to tell you that having knowledge of eight attributes is in relation to our knowledge; that is, we are religiously obliged to acquire knowledge of only eight, as a mercy upon us weak beings. though Allah's attributes are limitless. please consult this primer in tawHid before you try teaching more advanced texts:

    http://www.al-mostafa.info/data/arabic/depot3/gap.php?file=i000162.pdf

    8. “Every Attribute is different from the other and has a different meaning”. They are not the same.

    true

    9. “We are not like those Asharis who limit the Atributes of Allah to seven/eight” (A. Nadwi)

    who are 'those asharis'? they're certainly not imam al Haramayn, ibn asakir or imam al sanusi.

    10/11. “We believe Allah’s Attributes are unlimited” (A. Nadwi) “We believe in Allah’s Attributes as Allah has described Himself” (A.Nadwi)

    who are 'we', and why have they been endowed with a correct understanding of tawHid whilst the asharis, according to nadwi, haven't?

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    it's late, so i wont continue commenting on nadwi's 'pearls of wisdom'. but, what an ignoramus...

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    Allah knows best
     
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  4. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

    People should ask him for a reference of this Hadith:

     
  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

  6. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    people should ask yaqubi pointedly whether he considers seyyid hossein nasr, as a murtad or as a muslim.

    and what does he think about the new 'translation' of the qur'an.

    if he is evasive, it is clear that yaqubi's faith is dead.



    نسأل الله العافية
     
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  7. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    akram nadawi is a jahil who thinks he knows about aqidah better than imam taHawi.
    someone post the ridiculous claims of this nadawi, and his "class" on taHawiyah.

    as for yaqubi, he was lost after he became a politician. in hindsight, it appears that his praise of alahazrat was also one of those flattery sessions, to prey on unsuspecting subcontinental sunnis.

    لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله
     
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  8. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

    أستغفر الله العظيم .
     
  9. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

    Shaykh Yaqoubi wrote the following about Akram Nadwi:
     

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