جزاك الله خيرًا. ان شاء الله, this changes. Is there an existing thread that looks at and answers objections in English? If not, can we start one as it would prove useful for future reference and can be updated down the line if anything else comes up.
see the appendix of preamble to faith, where we proved conclusively that it was rashid ahmad's fatwa. there is another problem with sunnis - while deos are active in promoting their works, our people - both influencers and commoners - are neither interested in available material, nor will they promote it when needed. --- http://www.ridawipress.org/wp-content/uploads/preamble-to-faith.pdf take screenshots from these pages and refute them. --- there was no other shaytan bigger than husayn tandwi himself. his boasts were refuted by allamah ajmal qadri in "radd e shihab e saqib"
Was unsure where to place this. 1604566267372896257 is not a valid tweet id Has this been answered in English?
Please read this. By Shaykh Monawwar Ateeq Try Ctrl + F and enter "Barzanji" and "Gayat" for the relevant sections. https://scholarsink.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/knowledge_of_the_unseen_theology1.pdf
this is the Ghayatul Mamool uploaded on zameel's own website, by himself: https://barelwism.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/ghayat-al-mamul-sayyid-ahmad-barzanji.pdf (link was active today 21 JAN 2019 UTC 13:27 hrs, lest he uploads an altered/doctored copy later) the same affirmation of the Sayyid's taqriz is mentioned in zameel's own copy too, on pages 9 and 10!! (same pages that abu Hasan pasted)
notice that shaykh barzanji repeats in arabic what alahazrat said in mutamad and attests his takfir, saying if they said so, they are kafir. deos translate BACK from the arabic to urdu - which confirms that alahazrat's translation in arabic was accurate! compare it with original ibarat. --- now tell me where did shaykh barzanji retract?
interestingly the same husayn ahmad tandwi published shaykh barzanji's ghayatu'l ma'amul along with his shihab al-thaqib which clearly attests that alahazrat quoted deos accurately in husamul haramayn and shaykh barzanji did not bother to repeal/retract his judgement. in fact, he confirmed it once again! these are from the frontispieces of the books published by deos. just in case they say 'barelwis published it themselves'.
Prove it, zaleel. Prove that Barzanji wanted to retract his attestation. We can't take your word for it or Husayn Tandwi's because you're both shameless liars who seem not to believe in judgement day.
It seems zameel deobandi gang is following the posts here he came up with this article: https://barelwism.wordpress.com/201...efute-aḥmad-riḍa-khans-views-on-ilm-al-ghayb/ here is the testimony of Zameel Deobandi wahhabi : "Barelwīs will point out that Sayyid Aḥmad al-Barzanjī was a signatory of Aḥmad Riḍā Khān’s Ḥusām al-Ḥaramayn – which is true.* But the reality of his signature was described by Shaykh al-Islām Mawlānā Sayyid Ḥusayn Aḥmad Madanī (1879 – 1957)..." But the reality of his signature was described by deobandi salafi wahabi -- who cares was he signatory or not ? then the deobandi brings same fancy imaginations or hallucinations ........
You might not. Some others do. Just like how you have oft-mentioned Zameel here on sunniport but your average sunni might not care about this at all. Without pointing fingers at any specific individuals, I would say that significant portion of our community is busy with chest thumping and thinking that we are the best in everything. We lack self-criticism and analysis of our short-comings. Opponents who work hard, like on networking with arab ulama or groundwork within our communities, reap benefits. So, whilst, you are right in saying that hardly anyone cares about these issues, I don't see this as a praise at all. We are too busy to recognize the emerging trends and work accordingly. From my limited exposure to the above group, I am fearful that they seem to be the next upcoming big source of fitna. If we closely analyse their circles, it includes politically active salafis, NADWIS, Modernists, salafi sulah kullis etc. who are a perfect recipe for another Mufti Abu Layth in making with just enough 'moderation' to not appear completely stupid like him. I am fearful that they are going to come up with really weird positions with the potential to confuse the modern public esp. in the west.
Agreed. I had written this a while back: Whilst, one's sincerity towards din and detachment from the dunya, and fame is admirable, this doesn't mean that knowledgeable people should not come out to clarify the truth, and should just keep working in silos and remain busy 'doing their own thing'. They should re-evaluate their priorities, take out time for matters pertaining to the commonfolk, collaborate with others like them, if required, and work towards answering the relevant challenges that Muslims are facing. One would argue that they are already too occupied with other things which are also important. If that is the case then they should sit together and distribute specific responsibilities amongst themselves. Not everyone is obliged to do everything but some things are communal obligations. So, yes, I agree that we need a dedicated team here because our opponents are working as a team. We can't expect just one or two individuals to bear this responsibility all alone. IMHO, without publicly naming anyone, if senior ulama aren't directly getting involved in this due to some constraints, they should be working in the background and guiding the team responsible for answering these individuals.
LIES. damned lies. that is what deobandi is known for. where did shaykh barzanji 'retract'? he actually reiterated his takfir of 4 deobandi insulters these people call 'elders'.
السلام عليكم Honestly, in our times, Sh. Abu Hasan & Sh. Asrar (along with few hidden gems in the UK) should start collaborating and working against the new arguments frothing and loathing from Zameel Deobandi Gang (videos by Usman and blog by Zameel) Almost everyweek, deo heretics are coming with articles and videos and now SUNNIS have to defend. OK, heretics, question for you. in your latest book by Deobandi Sarfaraz Safdar Khan, you claimed Barzanji has retracted due to aqida of Alahazrat on Ilm al-Ghayb, but here we have several sufis and sunnis like Saeed Fudah, Muhamad Alawi al-Maliki, Ashari Sufis of Syria Morocco, Kittanis, Ghumaris, Sanusi...... why don't you apply the same fatwa on them? Deos you claim Barelwi creed is different than Ahlus Sunnah when it comes to Ilm Ghayb, Hazir & Nazir. yes, different than Deobandis and wahhabis but similar to other Sufi scholars from Syria Tunis Algeria Morocco, Jordan, Egypt, ...... why don't you also do wholesale takfir of those scholars (past and present) It is time that Sh. Asrar or Sh. Abu Hasan debate and challenge their elders and smash them... No one cares about the Awni.