Azan By Loudspeaker

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  1. pervej

    pervej New Member

    exxagerated use

    When loudspeakers were introduced to the Muslim world, it was religious clerics who opposed the usage of loudspeakers, calling it a Fitna and Fatwas were issued forbidding its usage. Now that they have a taste of its power, they dont want to let go of it.

    Azaan is an essential part of Islamic religion, there is no debate on that issue. Question which needs to be asked is whether inviting Muslims to prayers through a loudspeaker is acceptable even though it may disturb those with different religious beliefs. Does Islam allow such behaviour?

    I remember listening to my American friend who had moved in a Muslim country for the very first time and was shaken by early (Fajar) call to prayers. He thought there was a bomb scare or something. How would he know, unfortunately for him he was put in a room right next to the Mosque loudspeakers.

    Question that needs to be answered is whether heavy or exaggerated use of any thing is acceptable under Islamic law and jurisprudence, if not then there is something fundamentally wrong with the way loudspeakers are used to announce call for prayers.
     
  2. Shanur

    Shanur New Member

    Seems like you haven't read the whole thread and just jumped to read and comment on to what I added to the thread.

    Where have you seen me making my own interpretation of the words of scholars.

    You should have answered the question i asked, instead of trying to beat around the bush. We can keep pulling the thread to any page length just by posing lame questions around the subjuct and not focusing on the main issue.

    Need to know the truth.... Do your own Homework...

    You can start here, if you like. www.hizmetbooks.org look for Endless Bliss A book written with in the last 100 years, after the introduction of loudspeaker.
     
  3. Haroon

    Haroon Guest

    Salam alaikum,

    this reminds me of one HT brother who said to me that its okay to look fornication on tv since its just electricity and magentism and the like.

    getting back to the subject, yes it hasnt been 100 years since the loudspeaker has been introduced, therefore why not quote the positions of authorities in fiqh in the last 100 years in the subject rather then make your own interpretations of scholars words from before that time.

    wasalam,
    Haroon
     
  4. Shanur

    Shanur New Member

    Prophet Muhammed (صلى الله عليه وسلم)didnt leave us alone. He left us with two things, Holy Quran and His Hadith.

    Do you think Allah will agree to the idea of those millions which runs contrary to the ideas of Quran and Hadith.

    Why do we have to follow those millons of peoples in makkah and madina. Are they the one Prophet guided us to follow.

    Its not even more than 100 years that the loudspeaker is been introduced in islam.

    SQQ asks about an alternative to loudspeaker as if Islam is hopeless without loudspeaker. Sqq and all others who supports loudspeaker...JUST QUESTION THIS TO YOURSELF......


    HOW DID MILLONS OF PEOPLE PRAY THEIR PRAYER AND PERFORM THEIR HAJJ BEFORE LOUDSPEAKER CAME???

    Majority of the muslim world is clean shavers.

    Does this mean that Allah will love those clean shavers just becoz they are among the majority?
     
  5. sqq

    sqq New Member

    Assalam Alaykum,

    What about in Masajid al haram & Nabawi ?? Is the prayer consisting of more than a million people, "sinful"?? Can these scholars give an idea or an alternative of loudspeakers to the Imams of Mekkah and Medina??
     
  6. ottoman

    ottoman Veteran

    The loud-speaker put on minarets has become a means of laziness for some people and caused him to say the adhan sitting in dark rooms without following the sunnat. It is written in Fatawa-yi-Hindiyya, "It is makruh to call the adhan before the prayer time comes, to say it inside the mosque, to say it sitting, to raise the voice more than one's normal puissance, not to say it in the direction of qibla, or to say it melodiously. A person who arrives as the iqamat is being said, sits down. Then he stands up together with all the others as the muazzin says 'hayya-alal-falah.' " Ibni Abidin states at the beginning of the subject about namaz, "The adhan called at its prescribed time is the Islamic adhan. The adhan called before its time is no more than a talk. It means to make fun of Islam." And minarets, our spiritual ornaments that have been soaring in the sky for centuries, have been made a mast of loud-speaker because of this atrocious bidat. Islamic savants have always consented to scientific inventions. So it is doubtless that useful broadcasting by TV's, radios and loud- speakers everywhere is an invention which Islam consents to and will utilize. But it has been harmful to deprive Muslims of the sweet voice of adhan and to conduct the worships with the lacerating sound of the loud-speaker. It is unnecessary prodigality to install loud- speakers in mosques. When this apparatus did not exist, which clatters as if it were a church bell instead of the voices of pious believers that would impress hearts with iman divinely, the adhans said on minarets and the voices of takbir in mosques used to move even foreigners to enthusiasm. The jamaat that filled the mosques upon hearing the adhans said at every quarter used to perform their namaz in khushu' (deep and humble reverence), as had been in the time of the Sahaba. This heavenly effect of the adhan that would move believers to raptures has been fading away in the metallic sounds of loudspeakers
     
  7. ottoman

    ottoman Veteran

    it is sinful to raise the voice more than necessary, what is produced by the loud-speaker is not the imam's or the muazzin's voice. Their voice turns into electricity and magnetism. So what is heard is the sound produced by electricity and magnetism. It is necessary to hear the voice of a person who is performing the same namaz. The namaz of those who follow the voice of someone who is not performing the same namaz, or the sound produced by any apparatus, is not sahih. It is written on the five hundred and seventeenth page of the first volume of the book Radd-ul-mukhtar, "If a hafiz's voice spreads out and gets multiplied on mountains, in desert, in forests or through any other means, these second sounds will not be the Qur'an. It is not necessary to perform sajda with the ayat of sajda heard from them." It is written in Halabi al-kabir that these recitals are not human recitals, but they are like human recitals. These clear statements by specialists of Islam show that it is wrong to read or listen to the adhan or the Qur'an al- karim through radios or loud-speakers or to perform namaz by following them. It is written in detail on page 2361 of the third volume of the book of Tafsir written by Muhammad Hamdi Effendi of Elmali that it is not permissible to call the adhan or to recite the Qur'an al-karim through a loudspeaker or on the radio. In especial, it is both not sahih and an abominable bidat to follow an imam in another building through a loudspeaker. It is a grave sin.
     
  8. Assalaam Alaikum

    It depends on whether the microphone amplifies the same voice, in which case it might be acceptable,or if it reproduces the voice(hence not original voice of muazzin)wherein it might not be acceptable.
     
  9. ottoman

    ottoman Veteran

    The fact that those prayers performed by following the voice in a loud speaker or the imam on television are not accepted is written in the twelfth issue of the magazine Al-Muallim, dated Rabi'ul- awwal, 1406 [December, 1985], and published by the Indian Muslim scholars of the city of Malappuram, Kerala, India. He corroborates his thesis by citing very strong and detailed proofs.
     
  10. ottoman

    ottoman Veteran

  11. mkahn133

    mkahn133 New Member

    references ?
     
  12. abbasmadani

    abbasmadani Guest

    JazakAllah for sharing
     
  13. huseyin

    huseyin Guest

    Calling Azan By Loudspeakears Is Bİd'at It Is Changing Sunnah Azan Must Be Without Microphone.. None Of Bİd'at İs Good
     

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