If there was nothing wrong with what he said why say: Why make a video retraction if there was nothing wrong in the first place? Why use Sayyid Irfan Shah Sahib's statement to hide behind? Do two wrong statements make a right?
O People who Believe! Do not raise your voices higher than the voice of the Prophet, nor speak to him loudly the way you shout to one another, lest your deeds go to waste whilst you are unaware. [49:2]
Zaheer Mahmood states at 8 min and 20 sec: So anyone who does not intend has not committed kufr?? He did mention the word tawba.
It has not been done with any Sunni Alim. You have no knowledge of whats going on the ground and seem to have an old grudge regarding SacredKnowledge. Ramadan is approaching, give up your old grudge. Allama Fayd Ahmad Owaisi gave the fatwa, and Shaykh Ya'qoubi approved of the fatwa. Like i said you don't know the facts. If he approves of the statements of the Deobandi elders. Now let me ask you a simple question. Do you not consider the statements of the four Deobandi elders as kufr??
seems to be a common phenomenon: exposing and firing at people without talking to them. it was done with Sacred Knowledge, and now another sunni 'alim. see sunni talk and ibn al-qayyim's post Nobody made takfir of him. Sayyid Muhammad al-Yaqubi alluded to it, but didn't say it outright. big difference. My point still stands. Many of the Sunni uleme (elders) in the uk would view Zahir as a heretic, kafir by default due to him being deobandi (let alone the comments which were up on his site previously).
No one of knowledge has disagreed. It is more to do with misinformation being relayed and people being hasty. And if you admit that he has made a 'retraction' then it is obvious that there was a misunderstanding in the first place. Arab or non-Arab makes little difference on issues like this. Qadi Iyad and many others are authorities and Arab. What did those Arab Ulama you refer to say about Dr Ahmad Hassoun? Some still have him on their websites as a respectable scholar. Like i said i don't know the details and we should not be surmising as to what was discussed and how. I said: Zaheer Mahmoud is a Deobandi scholar. Surely he knows the fiqh rulings as laid out by Anwar Shah Kashmiri and Rashid Gangohi? Don't make assumptions.
is there absolute agreement amongst all reliable sunni scholars that what Zahir Mahmood said was kufr? read this: http://sunnitalk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=1278&pid=7021#pid7021 clearly someone of knowledge disagrees that it is kufr. i would like to see the opinions of the Arab ulema on it. furthermore, he has made a retraction. you state that you don't know if the group of people told him what he said was kufr, yet you also state he is refusing to acknowledge what he said was kufr! how could he if it wasn't explained to him? also, don't you believe he is a kafir anyway, considering he is a deobandi!
This was mentioned at Fosbrooke Rd in Small Heath as a necessary for anyone wishing to understand the subject: http://www.scribd.com/doc/47023722/Tamheed-Ul-Iman-Arabic Especially the part about 'I'laniya tawba' and the passages of fiqh books which can be misconstrued. It was mentioned as important reading for anyone wanting to understand the topic.
He has been made aware. A group of people went to see him and tell him. I don't know if they told him he has done kufr, but they made him aware that he has used disrespect for the best of creation. Zaheer is refusing to acknowledge that he has done kufr.
still no retraction? i would have thought any muslim, when made aware that he has insulted rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam, would retract and repent immediately. let's assume he doesn't know: the deobandis who know zaheer and visit our forum should make him aware of his kufr straight away lest he dies and is damned forever.
Here is the mas'ala: http://www.trueislam.info/BooksLibrary/UrduBooks/BahareShariat/Part09/index.htm Skip to 206 It is masala no.8 on page no 175 Thanks to 'Dawat e Islami' there is sourcing and referencing available aswell. Very good edition.
JazakAllah Mawlana. But i ask for the general benefit. Can someone please sum up the answers to the above questions for the benefit of all users and for LAYMEN like myself, jazakumAllahu khayyran.
Read Bahaare Shariat by Sadr al Shariah Shaykh Mufti Amjad Ali alaihi rahmah chapter of irtidaad in the 9th part Volume 1 Murtad ka Bayaan it mentions the method of entering Islam again and tawbah.
alhamdulillah it is saved A question for the brothers: How should Zaheer do tawba? What is the method? Should he mention that he does tawba from a particular kufr statement? Or is it sufficient for him to admit that he simply made a mistake and that is it? When he does tawba from this statement should he recite the kalima shahada along with the admittance or is it sufficient for him to just say he has made a mistake? Should the tawba be made in public because the kufr was done in public? Or is it sufficient that he admit his mistake? Is it sufficient for him to make tawba in private? What are the conditions of his tawba? I would appreciate it if our elder Abu Hasan could clarify all of the above.