Fatwa on Tahir ul Qadri - Mufti Muhammad Fazl e Rasool Siyalvi Chisti

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  1. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Two simple question to Dajjal Tahir, now since his masters have heaped so much calumny on the Best of the Creation:-

    Will he still support them and call them "believers"?

    Will he still say that blasphemy law does not apply to Christians?
     
  2. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    English Translation of Mufti Fazl e Rasool Siyalvi's Fatwa of Kufr on "Tahirul Qadri"

    English Translation of Shaikhul Hadith Mufti Mohammed Fadl e Rasool Siyalwi's Fatwa of Kufr on "Tahirul Qadri" is attached.

    Also see: "Dr. Tahirul Qadri" Celebrating Christmas and his Unity with Other Religions:http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?p=37816
     
  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Anyone knows of a very recent fatwa by Azhari Miyan (hafidhahullah)?
     
  4. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    TuQ's gujarat trip has been CANCELLED. Thanks to the efforts of the Ulema e Haqq.

    TuQ never had the guts to face them, anyway.
     
  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    fta:
    apologies for being pedantic but crux also means a cross. i hope it was not a freudian slip.
     
  6. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    Tahir "the sufi scholar" is milking publicity in India. This indeed is the biggest terror (I mean, threat posed to Indian Muslims) export from Pakistan!;)
     
  7. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    TuQ is travelling to India - specially to Gujarat, home of the world-infamous anti-Muslims riots that left at least 3,000 dead - under the notorious leadership of Narendra Modi.

    The Ulema in India are up in arms against him, and warning the public.

    Mufti Kausar Hasan Sahab has published a SPECIAL POSTER, detailing TuQ's blasphemies, and challenging him to an open debate.

    As usual, TuQ will not respond to this - for he does not have the guts to face it. But at least the general public will stay away.

    The poster has a good detailed refutation: & is attached for review.
     

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  8. medni

    medni Active Member


  9. al Muhaddith al Kabeer Shaykh Zia ul Mustafa al Qadri hafizahullahu Ta'ala mentioned that the grand Muftis of Hind will be issuing a fatwaa on him.

    I spoke to the Shaykh a few weeks ago and he mentioned that the acts were kufriyyah and he said to have rida be pleased with kufr is kufr and he was inviting them to commit shirk.

    He also mentioned that many 'Ulamaa of Pakistan had already issued fatwas on his misguidance along time ago.

    Ma'adhAllah
     
  10. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    It would be worthwhile for someone to make an Urdu translation of his crazy rantings at Wembley - and send to our Ulema in Pak/Hind, for a detailed definitive fatwa. Is anyone doing it?
     
  11. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    I think that a well known mufti should write a detailed analysis of his recent aberrations prompting ulama to issue a fatwa of kufr on him, and ask clear and direct questions to tq to answer in plain and clear language that what does he mean, get this document endorsed by a good number of prominent scholars and muftiyaan-e-kiraam and send it to tq. if he doesn't answer within sufficient time such a document should take to read, understand and answer, then all those muftiyaan e kiram should issue a fatwa unanimously to avoid any ambiguity among awam and the followers of tq.

    Mufti Muhammad Fazl e Rasool Siyalvi Chisti has decreed the fatwa based upon his inquiries and i do not reject it, i am only hinting that there should be a unanimous fatwa in order to prevent the formation of another murtad cult, and the most dangerous aspect of this cult would be that they will resemble in many of the fundamental aqaid and practicies of ahlussunah wa jama'ah.
     
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  12. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    the actions and statements of tq are [obvious] kufr, but calling that something is an action of kufr technically does not mean that it is a fatwa of kufr, i guess it is also mentioned in the preamble. Yes, some ulama have already decreed the ruling of kufr and is sufficient for awam to follow as they are only accountable to ask the knowledgeable, yet i feel that these luminaries want to hold their pen ONLY for atmaam e hujjat, not because they don't deem it kufr.

    Also, i think that this can be a best example to explain and counter the claims of dobies that some ulama-e-ahl-esunnat did not decree fatwa of kufr upon their elders. either those ulama were not asked for a fatwa, or they deemed it kufr yet they held their pen in accordance with the information available to them until they do atmaam e hujjat.

    i may be wrong in the above conclusion, kindly correct me if it is.
     
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  13. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    I too think it is a very soft ruling, but they have given some hints about the "deen e akbari". perhaps they should carefully listen to the clip where tahir addressed the pundits etc and told them to call "your lord". It leaves no ambiguity.
     
  14. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    i believe ghamkol sharif, birmingham, is one of the few sunni masjids in the UK that have hosted imam-e-minhaj in the past. i remember he was at VP, manchester, a few years back too. takbeer tv also aired his programs not too long ago.

    all these sunni institutes must take a stand now and not let this man into their masjids/tv channels.

    at other times, he gets his cronies to book halls or like recently, even major arenas like wembley. anyway, sunni ulama now have a shar'yi responsibility to boycott him and his events and to openly reject his invitation cards and the personal invites. this is inevitably the start of his revival of 'deen e akbari' and if ANYONE supports him, they will be as bad as him.

    organisations such as british muslim forum claim to represent over 500 sunni mosques. jama'at e ahle sunnat [HQ birmingham] and markazi jama'at e ahle sunnat also have a considerable influence - these all must issue statements condemning tahir jhangvi.

    may Allah protect us all.
     
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  15. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i have no idea brother if they want to give him time, or perhaps it is just an analysis. you're right it's not a fatwa proper. the only reason i called it 'rulings' is because they categorically stated that his actions/sayings are those of acceptance of kufr.
     
  16. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    it cannot be termed as fatwa of kufr. do they want to give time to tq?
     
  17. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    yes, you are right, it is an unfounded claim. unfortunately, sometimes our brothers are so stirred up that they chase bumblers for everything.

    brothers, leave it to the scholars.
     
  18. Miraj Ahmad

    Miraj Ahmad New Member

    As much as I find the work of this man abhorrent, I feel that I should point out that he does not refer to Sayyiduna Isa, alayhi salam, as God, naudhu bi'llah. Rather, he refers to him as the Holy Spirit of God. The exact words are, if your listen carefully, "the Holy Spirit of God, Jesus Christ."

    The clip is, of course, full of other statements that leave me nauseous: "We will take melodies from the Bible. We will take LYRICS from the Taurah and we will take rhythm from the Qu'ran. And we will take humility and peace from all other sacred books belonging to humanity" If that's not syncretism, I don't know what is. The fact that he will take his lyrics from the Taurah makes it all the worse.

    He then, in far more troubling language, asks the audience to remember Allah and he says:

    "We will remember the awakening of Buddha and we will remember the love of Krishna. We will remember the optimism of the Sikhs... May each religion keep its fragrance." I can certainly smell something. Deen-i-Akbari? Or perhaps it's the more current hodge-podge of the Inayat Khan family? Where was the altar with unopened, unread copies of the Qur'an, the Bible, the Torah and the Gita? Does he not realize that this song has already been sung by deviants with voices far more "fragrant" than his?

    Why would the Christians and Jews in attendance even tolerate this? I was raised in the Catholic Church, and even the most ecumenical hippy priests would be horrified by such a blurry and grotesque vision of "peace."

    Hearing this fool, I thank Allah that He opened my heart to the work of Ala Hazrat and his successors. No matter how small their ranks may grow in the years to come, their will be little security apart from their company. May Allah keep us all safely at the feet of the ulama of Ahl us-Sunnah, and may He destroy the fitna of foolish men.

    May He also reward Sidi Abu Hasan for his timely translation of Tamhid e Iman. It has served as a great reminder in these troubled times of why I came to Islam and why I have taken the Ridhawi tariqa.
     
  19. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

  20. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    here you go brother. the file size of this pdf is under 400kb.
     

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