so-called ashrafi alims at Minhaj e Tahiri Mumbai (thread started by minhaji minion)

"aap kya jaaneN sunniyat kya hai. baDon ka beTa ban'ne se koyi baDa nahiN ban jata. baDi jab banti hai awlad jab baDoN jaisi chale"

 

harun, instead of looking at those who favour him, why are you not looking at the huge list of 'Ulama who are against him..

 

So according to you, we should have followed mawdudi because he claimed to be a sayyid? What about the sayyids that refute tahir?

 

we respect a man as long as he is within the bounds of shariah. and if he dissents from ahlu's sunnah, we take him out, and cast him away like a fly from a glass of milk.

----------------
Please don't pick and shoose my posts ...I had asked that respecting Sayyids was part of teaching of Ala Hazrat or not..and you take my posts out of context to prove yourself?

Peer Amin Ul Hasant had shared the staged with TQ in Peace COnference
I am yet to find a video of Peer Amin Ul Hasant repentig from their earlier stand..

Please go ahead and issue a fatwa on Peer Amin Ul HAsant and share the video here as soon as its ready

 

this forum is not to entertain munafiqin and heretics. if you try to peddle your heresy, you will be kicked out. we are not like tahir - who will even misrepresent islamic rulings to curry favour with all and sundry. which scholar of islam deserving respect stood in the sidelines like a sycophant for politicians? like tahir acts like a puppy in front of benazir?

and we feel troubled that your faith is dying if not dead already.

yes. he taught us to be like unsheathed swords upon heretics and interfaith-maulvis. we respect a man as long as he is within the bounds of shariah. and if he dissents from ahlu's sunnah, we take him out, and cast him away like a fly from a glass of milk. read tamhid-e-iman if you like.

wa billahi't tawfiq.

 

Was this before or after Mufti Nizamuddin's fatwa was printed? If what you say is correct it is evidence of nothing unless it continued after the publication of the 12/2011 issue of the SDI magazine. I'm sure that most of the people who have attended his events in India are still unaware of what he did and said in London. It is likely that the muballighin in Mumbai knew nothing of them before they read the fatwa. If the practice continues, it does so without the knowledge or permission of Ameer-e-SDI. As I told you, I was with Maulana Shakir Noorie last month and I can confidently say that he does not support Tahir's activities. His word carries greater authority than that of any of the muballighin you may know. If you visit the markaz, then you can ask him yourself.

I'm beginning to think that you do not understand that time is linear and it tends to move in one direction. Of course that is a phenomenon no more obvious than Tahir's heresy. I wouldn't be surprised if that alluded you too. Do Peer Amin ul Hasanat and Mukhtar Shah Naeemi still support him after witnessing the event in the UK? Not all of the ulama present continued to stand with him after they saw his antics there.

I'd like to add that I discussed the UK events with a prominent faqih from Yemen, a man who is scrupulous in not criticizing a Muslim until a clear need arises. Without hesitating he described the statements made at the "Peace Conference" as kufr. Inshallah, when he returns to the US later this month I will ask him to prepare a formal ruling.

 

If you are here to gather fuel to flame new fires, you will be disappointed.
---------
I am not here to gather fuel..

but I have been following this forum since long and trying to restrain myslef at the exremism being shown by members here..but I can no longer do that...

This is not the first time I feel troubled but there are many posts on this forum

the members here don't have regards for noble Shuyukh and Sayyids like Shaykh Habib Al Jiffri..and start calling them names for Furoohi diffrences....
was this from teaching of Ala Hazrat(RA)?

 

.let me know when your Ulema are ready to press the trigger
------
it is already pressed.
-------------------------------
so according to you
Peer AMin Ul Hasanat
and Mukhtar Shah Naeemi are Kaafirs now??

Let the Ulema who are calling them kaafir release the video mentioning name and lets see how it goes from now on...

 

technically, you are correct. all i wanted to say was that modi's minister - but it was a mistake, and unlike you people, i will acknowledge it.

sub'HanAllah.

but you cannot be that alert when tahir accuses RasulALlah sallALlahu alayhi wa sallam of 'giving permission' to christians to perform their worship?

sub'HanAllah! you have such a sharp eye when tahir is concerned, but not when islamic beliefs are? you should die of shame and embarrassment.

 

it is already pressed. if you are that dumb that you cannot read, it is not our fault. anyone who knowingly supports tahir's heresy is either an apostate or a heretic. because unlike you ignoramuses, we know that there is a clause of ta'wil for those who abstain from takfir except in some explicit cases like the blasphemy of RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.

---
and i won't bandy any more words with an outright jahil like you.

salam.

 

narendra modi and the vatican city among other kuffar are his admirers, supporters and share the platform with him.
-------------------------------
When did Narendra Modi share platform with him???
...please avoid falsehood as you are accountable for all you are posting here

 

a man is known by the company he keeps.

narendra modi and the vatican city among other kuffar are his admirers, supporters and share the platform with him.

 

as i said, and as abdalqadir has said: either they are not aware of tahir's heresy, and if they know his antics and still support him, they are equally criminal.

do you think you can scare us with names?

-----------------
Then I think its time for Ulema you follow to come out and call each of them Apostate and out of Islam by mentioning names(no matter how big their names are)....the List is ready with us..let me know when your Ulema are ready to press the trigger

 

read minhaji fata morgana.

wa billahi't tawfiq.

 

as i said, and as abdalqadir has said: either they are not aware of tahir's heresy, and if they know his antics and still support him, they are equally criminal.

do you think you can scare us with names?

you guys are happy at a few names tahir throws on your ignorance. we are, alHamdulillah, fortunate to look into books and are capable of reading them. more importantly, we have a basic islamic education that helps us differentiate between islam and kufr. we don't need a mufti to clarify whether christians and jews are kafirs or not; whether prayer is worship or not.

you may be incapable of reading fat'H al-Qadir* or tabaqat ibn sa'ad, but we are not. you may be dumb and ignorant to swallow the filth that he belches, but we can sense its stench from a mile. go and try your tactics on monkeys without brains or people with no faith or good-hearted but illiterate sheeple.




-----
*an old issue of diyat, where tahir blatantly states the opposite of what is in fat'H and claims that such a provision is present in fat'H. daylight robbery but still his followers have the gall to face us.

 

If Irfan Qadiri is a muballigh of SDI his presence at the event in Hyderabad, let alone his acceptance of ijazah, contradicts the position of the organization and its founder

I personally visit SDI Markaz in Mumbai and have met Muballighs and they have positivie opinion of Dr. TQ and they run a speaker line which covers thousands of households in Mumbai and they regularly realy speeches of Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri on it....

 

Indeed. Perhaps you should open your eyes to the fact that posting a video that alleges to show a muballigh of SDI kissing the filthy hands of Tahir is a poor attempt at claiming that SDI supports his fitna. If Irfan Qadiri is a muballigh of SDI his presence at the event in Hyderabad, let alone his acceptance of ijazah, contradicts the position of the organization and its founder. As Abu Hasan said, perhaps he is unaware of Tahir's sins. He may also be unaware of SDI's stance. I spent much of last month in the company of Hazrat Alama Maulana Muhammad Shakir Ali Noorie, and I can assure you that he does not permit the muballighin to associate with Tahir or his minions. The well known views of Mufti Nizamuddiin are further proof that SDI stands against MUQ. The article by Mufti Sahib and Alama Yasin Akhtar Misbahi was printed in the SDI monthly magazine in Dec 2011. That is sufficient proof that the link you posted is a mischievous attempt to make a false claim about SDI.

Tahir is bringing his fitna to the US in June. He intends to replicate the circus he hosted in the UK last year. When Ameer-e-SDI was in New York we began planning a series of events to offer Sunnis an alternative to MUQ's activities.