Hamza Yusuf Please Retract and Make Tawbah

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    mark clarifies some more nuances

     
  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    anyone seen this in full yet? - (i haven't)




    this is a short clip from the same video, in which mark hanson apparently valiantly "corrects" and "destroys" tony blair. this is the stuff tragicomedies are made of!

     
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  3. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    hehehehehe, brother you know the ins and outs of these people. it is refreshing to see someone on Sunniport who understands this group


    true to the bone. They are self-hating, inferiority complex driven people. Pakistan and India are a ditch for them that they do not want to cross-over. They target Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan. The arab world is higher in value to them. They think knowledge is the west's inheritance in this age. The chinese are much better than these people in wisdom. They rejected giving any respect to the pope, except on a foreign/national/guest level, and are even planning to convert the Chinese Catholic Church into the Chinese Cultural Church, with pope eliminated, as they deem the Catholic Church the biggest threat to Chinese Culture and cite the Philippines as an example.

    thats exactly why they are jahil. They do not want to do work, being lazy loser bums on the street, failures. They think the 30 odd "shuyukh" are a guarantee for their salvation on earth.

    Brother AbdalQadir has explained clearly in detail the nature of these "neutrals". Majority of the neutrals in the west are like them.[/QUOTE]
     
  4. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    from he facebook page

    shamelessness knows no bounds for these zanadiq

    is it us wiping the pope's red shoes with our tongues or mark hanson?

    is it us who grovels at the doors of the dalai lama and the various other heads of kufr apologizing left, right, and center?

    was it us who advised george bush on what to call the iraq war and how best to slaughter 3 million children?

    besides, doesn't this idiot know that his boss mark hanson is dead set against the usage of the word "kuffar". according to his zindiq theology their is a nuanced difference between kafir and nonMuslim and that the k-word should never be used by his mureeds! but i guess it doesn't matter when you lash out and make accusations at people who show you the mirror!

    one mal3oon comments as thus:

    don't like to go down the racism track. Islam has seen awliyaa of all colors and ethnicities. Sayyidina Bilal radi Allahu 3anhu was black and a most esteemed sahabi.

    but when american born whitewashed immigrants infatuated by anything anglo-saxon, irish or black american speak like that, they need to be put in their rightful place.

    in the same vein orthodox and traditional Muslims too should state - western "converts" who until yesterday didn't know how to do istinja, and still don't know the difference between Iman and kufr, should be banned from opening their pie-holes in front of Muslims!

    even shameful are those losers born to other first generation loser parents who bred like animals and yet couldn't bother to teach their pathetic offspring deen, only so that this next generation watches these same western "converts" in awe with star studded eyes. had they learnt even basic deen at home, they wouldn't have needed to pick up Islam as a hobby or an extracurricular activity at some run down campus' msa frat party and drool over such scum. i have seen plentiful sensible people born to good parents who know their deen despite living in the west, so this is not an attack on immigrants. they can say it's because they've been taught by village mullahs from india/pak, but i have seen enough good Muslim children born to good Muslim parents in every Muslim community. likewise, my rant isn't aimed at all converts either. only at scum like mark hanson.

    i openly challenge the lowlife who set that page up or all those who commented there if they can even read 2 pages of the Quran with tajweed, or if they can list the basic ahkam of wudu or salah or zakat or if the females among them can even list out the basic ahkam for their monthlies. and they talk about intellectual stature, scholarship, and knowledge!

    i challenge any of these zombies if they can even point to a scholar outside of their post modern circle of vatican and government stooge shuyukh. for these people it seems, the world of Islamic scholarship is limited to some 20 or 30 odd "shuyukh" who like to address the pope as "his holiness". Allah forbid should they ever be acquainted with any other claimant to Islamic scholarship!

    what's further pathetic and worse is that these brain-dead zombies are like useless drug addicts with no capabilities of their own! even when they have taken up Islam as a hobby and an activity for their spare time, they simply couldn't be bothered learning, researching or applying their brains. no sir, they will just keep coming back to the drug dealers* like mark and tim for more doses of the same zandaqah they're hooked on to. Allah forbid should they pursue religious books or studies with half an open mind or see the world of Islam that exists outside their so-called "study circles" with some select few zindiq "shaykhs"!

    * mark hanson and tim winters are not drug dealers in a literal sense to the best of my knowledge. i have used the words "drug dealers" referring to them only as a nuanced allegory to make a subtle point. it's a matter of intellect and understanding which these losers lack, hence their frustration at their inability to offer a refutation or a rebuttal.
     
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  5. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    its seems these UK admirers of Hamza Yusuf are none other than the robot murids of Shaykh Yaqoubi cult. They will continue to be in the trans-state of khidmah, never to progress. Shaykh Yaqoubi, like Mr Nuh Keller will keep them jahil and depressed and consequently, obedient and confused. This is the way of the cults.
     
  6. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    in sha Allah, in North America too we will start a campaign against this innovator called Hamza Yusuf, who is not a Sunni
     
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  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    it seems mark hanson has some more to retract. watch this video (at around 00:23:50 to 00:24:20 he says he asks the then pope benedict to pray for his mother in law since they're both catholics; at around 01:06:00 he cracks wise saying Islam is the most unorganized religion invoking laughter from a crowd of most probably catholics; towards the end he says he needs an "alliance of faiths"; maybe this video was linked on this forum before)

     
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  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Muslims should ask themselves: is this how a Muslim scholar should behave? If a staunch kafir promotes texts in which rasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam is insulted, we have violent protests but when a Muslim scholar does the same, we let it go.

    We hate the kufr of thanwi and rush-die for insulting rasulAllah but we excuse hamza for promoting a book that has even worse insults.

    We are so personality oriented.

    We should never worry about upsetting someone due to our standing for principles. We should worry about what pleases and angers rasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam. I'd rather upset the whole world and please only rasulAllah than vice versa.
     
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  10. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    I know people who read a lot of English literature but their gheerah forbids them from ever going near inferno. Shame on scholars who recommend the very same and those too who refuse to refute such scholars for such disgusting actions.
     
  11. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Great video - 35 minutes and onwards is mark related.
     
  12. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    hamza needn't worry about his many nuances but the fact that many Muslims would never have known about the wretch dante if hamza didn't mention him.
     
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  13. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Listen from 34 mins onwards:

     
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