Yanabi.com just deleted a whole thread because they couldn’t stomach my post refuting

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  1. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    it would not be an exaggeration to say that Ala Hazrat saved Sunniyat even in Afghanistan and parts of Iran, yemen, and as a consequence, central asia, and the far east.

    ideas spread faster than the names behind them, Sunni Muslims all over the world owe it to him
     
  2. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    What an amazing post by aH above!
     
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  3. They do quote A'ala Hadrat Mujaddid A'azam Imam Ahmad Rida Khan rahimahullahu Ta'ala and I have heard a scholar from their group refer to himself as a Bareilawi.

    The members of the forum are obviously not following their elders.
     
  4. You say that there is no point in speaking to them, but they should not be allowed to openly lie and revile the great scholars of Islam.

    I believe that they should be refuted with knowledge.
     
  5. harun

    harun Active Member

    Daal di qalb meiN 'azmate muSTafa (SallAllahu alhi Wassalam)
    sayyidi a'laHazrat pe laakhoN salaam
     
  6. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    in my opinion, every sunni in the subcontinent is in debt of alahazrat. [wAllahu a'alam]

    alahazrat saved sunniyat in the subcontinent - in your mind's eye, if you just take alahazrat out of the picture, you can see that there are only deobandis and ghayr muqallidin wahabis apart from rawafid and the naturalist morons.

    without alahazrat, sunnis would have remained in small pockets as it is in saudi arabia today.

    if it was not for alahazrat - and thereafter his students - they would openly peddle their heresies. there would hardly be any person in india who would not subscribe to the ugly belief that the Creator can lie (even though they take pains to point out that He does not lie though it is an inherent possibility). tafwiyatul iman would be a best seller and durud-taj would probably be forgotten forever. of course, who would celebrate meelad?

    hashr tak DaleNge hum paydayish e mawla ki dhoom
    misl e faaras najd ke qil'ye giraatey jayeNge

    khak ho jayeN `aduu jal kar magar hum to razaa
    dam meiN jab tak dam hai zikr unka sunatey jayeNge


    --
    as for deobandis, if it was not for alahazrat, their akabirin would have uttered more and worse statements emboldened by the fact that there would not be a major scholar/followers to check them; and they would not be hiding their books nor stopping from more blasphemies.

    kyuN raza aaj gali suuni hai
    uTh mere dhoom machane waaley!
     
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  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    these ingrate clowns owe it to Ala Hazrat big time

    their mehfil's would be so full of crap if it weren't for Ala Hazrat's na3ts and his Salam. (not even counting the full-on academic contributions)

    his beautiful Salam is almost a trademark and clowns like these and the murtad tahir have hijacked it and abused it ruthlessly, and spread so much misinformation in our name to others!

    anyone (desi) who has a problem with "barelwis" should completely abandon Ala Hazrat's Salam and na3ts from their mehfil's if they have even an iota of shame or decency, and they should just compose their own

    these shameless animals come crawling to the works of Ala Hazrat when they need to score a point and look smart in front of each other or an audience of sheeple, they have his magnificent Salam recited in their gatherings only to appear truthful and pious; and when their job is done, they show themselves for the ungrateful cretins that they are
     
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  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    aren't they stooges of the padri tahir, who claims to be a student of Ala Hazrat only 1 or 2 links away in the real life chain, and with 0 degrees of separation in the world of dreams where Ala Hazrat has supposedly blessed him personally?

    the same goes for mr. abdul qadir jilani of the uk, doesn't he too masquerade as "barelwi"?
     
  9. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    They are seriously a bunch of muppets. They are so obsessed with trying not to be 'Barelwi' that they look for any scholar who they can have a go at. Mufti Ashraf ul Qadri has immense knowledge and is very pios and if Desert Sheikh or the other fools think they have more knowledge or understanding than him then they are seriously deluded
     
  10. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    "desert sheikh" and "qalam" on that forum are also openly pro murtad tahir. no sense in talking to such fools, who believe that shirk was allowed by the prophet.
     
  11. Yanabi.com just deleted a whole thread because they couldn’t stomach my post refuting desert sheikh


    The thread was started by desert sheikh and was entitled:

    Brelvi Moulana Sahib commenting Hazrat Allama Iqbal’s Eman and Taqwa

    I voted his post as poor which is still on the main screen but the whole thread has now disappeared. This clearly shows if they cannot answer they just delete.


    [quote name='Desert-Sheikh' timestamp='1352839493' post='459357']


    At first, (to take advantage of Hazrat Iqbal)

    Where does Allamah Mufti Ashraf ul Qadri hafizahullahu Ta’ala take advantage of Dr Iqbal?

    he proved that Hazrat Allama Iqbal was a Bareilvi (Maulana Sahib only consider Barelvis as Sunni),

    If you listen to Allamah Mufti Ashraf ul Qadri hafizahullahu Ta’ala ‘s own words and quote him correctly he didn’t even mention Bareilawi. You are misquoting the Shaykh hafizahullahu Ta’ala. Fear Allah Tabaarak wa Ta’ala

    As for Barelvis being the only Sunnis what is wrong with that, The following sects Wahhabis and Deobandis refer to themselves as Ahl us Sunnah so how are you going to differentiate?

    The title Bareilawi is added on the end of Ahl us Sunnah wal Ja’ma’ah as a fasl mumayyaz a word to differentiate and separate from the false claimants to the Ahl us Sunnah.

    A well known scholar from your own group that being Pir Abdul Qadir Shah group, refers to himself as a Bareilvi in a very proud way that being Syed Zahid Hussain Rizvi he is know as being Pir Abd ul Qadir Shah’s right hand man.

    If you consider the Wahhabis and Deobandis that have the belief that Allah can lie etc to be Sunni and Ahl us Sunnah then you are truly misinformed you should make an effort to learn about the beliefs of the Ahl us Sunnah.

    admitted that He was an Ashiq-e-Rasool (Sallallahu Alieh Wassalam), also used to pray Tahajud and then passed judgment on his Taqwa that he didn't have a beard so he lacked Taqwa and therefore cannot be called a Wali-Allah.

    What is your problem with Allamah Mufti Ashraf ul Qadri hafizahullahu Ta’ala ‘s statement. The ruling on keeping a beard is obligatory; so if a person does not keep a beard he is a sinner faasiq. How can a sinner and transgressor be a friend of Allah. You really need to learn Islamic Law Fiqh start with an easy book like Hamara Islam or Qanoon e Shariat in sha Allah, learn something before you comment on what the grand Islamic Scholars say.



    I i dont want to discuss his 'fatwa' becasue i know religious people are tend to pass judgements about others level of Iman and Taqwa (That only Allah knows)

    Why don’t you want to discuss the fatwa?

    As I mentioned above it is common sense if a person is not fulfilling his obligations he is not known as a Muttaqi pious person.

    but his attitude that really disturbed me.

    Your lack of knowledge and willingness to comment is really disturbing, that you have the audacity to act like an expert on Islam and can attack such a well known knowledgeable scholar and jurist of the Ahl us Sunnah.

    He didn't show any respect towards Hazrat Allama Iqbal and continually referred him ('Uss nay' and ' nimaz bhi parta tha' etc ) as he was talking about someone 'inferior' to him.

    He referred to Him as Allamah Iqbal didn’t you hear that? You obviously have enmity with the great Shaykh hafizahullahu Ta’ala

    You should do some research about Islamic Ettiqutes in the Ahaadith literature ek ‘aqalmand aadmi ke liye ishaarah hi kaafi hai.

    Didn’t you hear ‘Allamah Shaykh Mufti Pir Muhammad Ashraf ul Qadri Muhaddis e Naikabad may Allah Ta’ala Protect him say:

    “Hamein Iqbal se pyaar hai” We love Iqbal…

    Maulana Sahib, Hazrat Allama Iqbal gave the idea of Pakistan, he's one of the founding father of the country but it is unfortunate that people like you are destroying it by 'running' your sectarian corner-shops –

    You really need to learn some manners your attitude is really despicable. ‘Allamah Shaykh Mufti Pir Muhammad Ashraf ul Qadri Muhaddis e Naikabad may Allah Ta’ala Protect him is the student of Mufti Aazam Pakistan Allamah Sayyid Abul Barakaat Shah Sahib Qadri Rizvi (Hizb ul Ahnaaf Lahore) and ‘Aashiq e Ahle Bait Hakeem ul Ummah Allamah Mufti Ahmad Yaar Khan al Naeemi (Gujrat) rahimahumAllahu Tabaarak wa Ta’ala.

    Allamah Mufti Ashraf ul Qadri hafizahullahu Ta’ala is doing great work for Islam he is running a great Dar ul Uloom in Gujrat Pakistan al Jamiat ul Ashrafia he has thousands of students in Pakistan and around the world, he has issued thousands of Fataawaa, he has numerous extremely informative lectures about the Islam and is in charge of a great Islamic periodical Mahnamah Ahl e Sunnat.

    What have you done for Islam?

    you better pack your bags and move to disneyland.

    Baa adab baa naseeb be adab be naseeb
    A person with manners is fortunate a person without manners in unfortunate
    Do you call this good manners did you learn your manners from Disney land? is that why you are advising it?

    Btw, at 2:07 he says 'a Qadiani also cannot be a Wali Allah', he doesnt know that a Qadiani even cannot be a Muslim.

    Let’s talk about what you know can an innovator that denies the Dururiyaat ud Deen essentials of the religion be a Muslim? Where would you place Wahhabis, Deobandis, Shias etc.

    You don’t have much of an understanding of Urdu and your written English is extremely poor. You must be deluded if you ascertain that Allamah Mufti Ashraf ul Qadri Sahib hafizahullahu Ta’ala “doesn’t know that a Qadiani even cannot be a Muslim” in your own words.


    PS: Maulana sahib, kisi 'dhadi waley' ko bhi Tofiq na huwi ke wo Paksiatn ka khiyal deta ya tehreek-e-Paksiatn ko lead karta!
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    The statement above shows your complete and utter lack of knowledge about the history of Pakistan

    May Allah guide you aameen
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    Ahl us Sunnah Ahl ul Jannah
     

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