Imam Ijaz Shaami & Shias and Eidgah ?

Discussion in 'Refutation' started by HaqIsHaq, Aug 5, 2016.

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  1. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member

    Brother Harris, I also think that your attempts at satire need to stop. If anything, they are doing you a disfavour.

    Quite frankly, you're one of only two I've ever come across on these types of forums who are willing to twist things and put a play on words just for a bit of a laugh, and in doing so often mocking some of our most senior scholars.

    If you are truly sincere, then please stop this bad habit. It is not the way of our pious predecessors and nor is it earning you any reward - but the opposite, rather.

    May Allah forgive us for our sins.
     
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  2. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier Active Member

    Apparently there has also been some issues with Imam Ijaz and Pir Abdul Qadir Shah but i'm not sure of these details to be honest. Anyone heard anything regarding this?

    If we list the issues so brother Harris can get them answered for us.
    1) Endorsing prayer behind saudis
    2) Deobandis leading in the centre which was paid by the sunni money
    3) Posings with Shias
    4) Eidgah Sharif (You have already mentioned you don't agree with this. Maybe you need to relay this on social media as you are very active speaking against deviance, Alhamdullilah)

    I also believe you need to cut out the sarcasm and silly remarks.
     
  3. izz al-Din

    izz al-Din Well-Known Member

    Brother, is it possible he has converted the deos?
    Is it possible the Salat and Salam he recites instead is not to alienate others aswell as other deos close to conversion?
    It may be gradual.
    What did Allamah Sayyid Ibn Abidin, Rahmat Allahi 'alayh, say about praying following wahabis, what you intended/meant was not clear?
     
  4. Shadhili123

    Shadhili123 New Member

    Brother these are not accusations I've personally observed deobandi's leading prayer.

    I would also like to make the following recommendations and I hope you will forward these to Mr Shaami & his father.

    1, Netherton Islamic Centre recite Salaam on Friday's.

    2, Both Mr Shaami & his father Inayat Ali repent from misguiding pilgrims (Hajj & Umrah) to read salah behind the wahabiyya and they endorse the teachings of Imam Abedin Shaami in this matter.

    3, Deobandi's are prohibited from doing imamat in their centre.
     
  5. Speak-truth

    Speak-truth New Member

    I think quite a few questions need clarity other than salam not being recited but also if there is any truth in regards too deobandis leading jamaat in imam ijaz absense these are big accusations my brother
     
  6. Shadhili123

    Shadhili123 New Member

    Mr Shaami is again showing his ignorance by ignoring to answer the objection raised as to the fact he does not recite salaam in his centre on Friday's. He say's haters are his motivators.

    Absolute nonsense I think I have proved my point.
     
  7. Shadhili123

    Shadhili123 New Member

     
  8. Abu Aleshba

    Abu Aleshba Active Member

    The silly comments, sarcasm and comedy routine has gone on for long enough. Perhaps we could do with a Comedy section for Harry Hill and other comedians/agent provocateurs to post their stuff?
     
  9. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier Active Member

    Harris,

    Agent X did not ask you about the videos and the photo. He was actually trying to defend Imam Ijaz by saying that he could not digest the Mustafa Jaane Rahmat statement.

    Harris since you are Imam Ijaz best friend and he is your big brother as has been stated many times, how about you find out for us?

    Also why was he with the shia?
     
  10. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Amar Zain I am not sure about the Salam in Dudley.

    Have you heard about when Mufti Shams was told not to give refutations of the Deobandis to the Mufti of Bosnia by Lisan ul Asr?
     
  11. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    @Harris786 i was more interested in clarification about the salaam comment

    Let's stay on topic to hand rather than make silly comments not related to the topic.
     
  12. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    I do not agree with the video by Mufakkir e Black Country bigging up the two Ronnies from Eidgah.

    Amar Zain what do you make of
    Mufakkir e Azmi/Cheetham Hill bigging his Janasheen up who has been organising memorials for Muslims in churches and synagogues

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=546151082239230&id=541213346066337&fs=5

    Mufti Muneeb should bring his Exam papers to the next reception and test Azmi and Shami. Mufti Saab is well versed in Arabic and see who reads Arabic better. It will be more intense than taking a notebook on Ummah filled with quotes from Urdu books

    https://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.938985489494056.1073741842.565991230126819&type=3#_=_


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  13. Shadhili123

    Shadhili123 New Member

    I agree
     
  14. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    I doubt its regarding me or this thread @Sunnisoldier

    Nobody here is hating unless we have different understandings of hating/haters
     
  15. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier Active Member

    Agent and Shadili123

    Obviously news has reached Imam Ijaz and this is his response.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

  17. Shadhili123

    Shadhili123 New Member

    Brother, I've been to Mr Shaami's centre myself and seen it with my own eyes and on this basis I consulted our English speaking scholars.

    Furthermore, I have also observed Deobandi's leading prayer in the absence of Mr Shaami and his father Inayat Ali.

    If you are still in doubt please pay a visit to Mr Shaami's centre and all well be revealed.
     
  18. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    Brother could you provide some evidence please.
    I'm not from Brum town.
    But Mr shaami Saab has come to my ends before.
    I've never met him or listened to any of his talks apart from one interview he had with a well known Syrian sheikh.
     
  19. Shadhili123

    Shadhili123 New Member

    Brother this not a joke it's the truth and scholars such as Shaykh Asrar have been made aware of this.
     
  20. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    Are you being for real or is this some kind of joke that I don't get?

    I'm finding it hard to digest this...
     

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