did anyone debate mawlana saeed asad?

Discussion in 'Refutation' started by Noori, Oct 23, 2016.

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  1. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    Borothers, it is useless to debate on this issue.
     
  2. Isaac Amini

    Isaac Amini Active Member

    There are ways to find out. I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as you could find out. Why don't you show the proof where Syed Irfan Shah Has challenged them and then we will all be able to find out.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2016
  3. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    Read my post again

    If his teacher has come up with this philosophy and couldn't defend it not sure how Saeed Asad can or has the student become greater than the teacher now...
     
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  4. Isaac Amini

    Isaac Amini Active Member

    Brother Agent-X
    You are probably very learned. I have no argument with you. I'm not here to be a keyboard warrior. However it is obvious what you tried to do. I was hoping you were going to say you was mistaken and then take back what you have said. You haven't.
    We are clearly discussing Allama Saeed Asad. When I offered to pay for tickets it's wasn't to debate Allama Ashraf Sialvi Sahib. You said they had been challenged to debates. I asked for proof and you said "here you go" and posted a video not concerning Allama Saeed Asad.
    I don't wish to continue dialogue with people who are here to cause trouble and deceive.
    Brother Noori/Shaykh Abu Hasan and Shaykh Aqib Al Qadri are doing a proper job of responding. I will only forward their posts. Unless you have any more accusations that you can back up please refrain from the 'hype' as this overshadows what is a good academic response
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2016
  5. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    No it was not against Saeed Asad HOWEVER it was against his teacher and its his stance that Saeed Asad takes please correct me if I am wrong? Was it not because of his teacher that Saeed Asad has this stance? Would you not say they are from the same camp?

    If you read my original post I did say one party didn't turn up. The party being that of Saeed Asads teacher
     
  6. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    that was probably a mistake.

    on a different note, brother - given the evidences that have been presented so far, by brothers noori, aqib and abu Hasan, what did you conclude about the issue yourself?
     
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  7. Isaac Amini

    Isaac Amini Active Member

    was this debate against Allama Saeed Asad or Allama Ashraf Sialvi
    ??
     
  8. Isaac Amini

    Isaac Amini Active Member

    was this debate arranged against Allama Saeed Asad or Allama Ashraf Sialvi
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2016
  9. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    Here you go. Theres probably a lot you don't know

    Ask Saeed Asad if he's ever done ruju (and how many times) on this issue and then changed his stance again. Will be good to know

     
  10. Isaac Amini

    Isaac Amini Active Member

    Brother Agent-X
    Are you asking me or is this a rhetorical question. If this happened then please provide some proof so we can all see.
    If you are asking me then this is the first I hear of it. If it is just hearsay then I don't think it should be entertained as there is no benefit in it.
     
  11. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    Brother Syed Irfan Shah Saab I believe have challenged Saeed Asad on this previously

    They didn't even request a first class ticket but I believe no debate went ahead.

    Why not pick up the phone and call Shah Saab and talk it out? Why not have the debate with Shah Saab? Am I wrong in saying a few years back a debate was arranged but one party didn't turn up?
     
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