Biggest Lie And Kufr Of The Year By Dr Tahir

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it is a foregone conclusion, why the if?
     
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  2. Aqdas

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  4. Aqib alQadri

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    read carefully what tahir jhangvi aka Padri said:

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    Whatever the "Law of Blasphemy" is - is NOT applicable on Non-Muslims. Is not applicable on Jews, and Christians and other Non-Muslims, minorities - it is just to be dealt with Muslims.
    UNQUOTE.

    So there is no punishment at all for Non- Muslim blasphemers ; not even a "ta'zeer", @Nawazuddin . Get it? NO PUNISHMENT AT ALL. So his friends (read "all haters of the prophet!") - may go ahead and revile the Holy Prophet to their hearts' desire!

    is there even a "minor" ikhtilaaf that the law of blasphemy does not apply to non-muslims? that they are not to be punished AT ALL?

    that is why I say, that what Tahir uttered is KUFR against the Ijma of the ummah; heck, what does one more kufr matter to the murtadd, if added to the thousands of Kufr that he has already uttered / endorsed.
     
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  5. abu Hasan

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    yeah, we did not hide it either. it is already mentioned in killer mistake, p34.

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    but shah nawaz, the lie that humbug padre from jhang is riled for, is that on danish tv, he said the exact opposite of what he said when bragging in front of the home crowd. notwithstanding ikhtilaf al fuqaha, there is general agreement that tahir jhangvi LIED without any shame in that issue, nor showed any remorse after his lies were caught out.

    and as if it were not enough, he invoked la'anat upon himself when he asked Allah ta'ala to deprive him of the shafa'at of RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam!
     
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  6. Aqdas

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    Sorry for digressing on an unrelated thread but nawaz, please answer these for us too (as a matter of principle and not in refutation of anyone in particular) and/or get Zahid shah Sahib or nisar beyg Sahib to answer.

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    Please elucidate and issue a ruling concerning:

    1. hold a gathering, invite people of various faiths to utter unislamic and polytheistic chants?

    2. to tell people of other faiths to call upon their god (or what they consider as god) in their own tradition?

    3. to ask/encourage people of other faiths to pray to whatever they consider as gods in their own tradition?

    4. to join in a multi-faith prayer with disbelievers with the intention that ‘let each of us call our own god’?

    5. to term this action as a Sunnah of the Prophet ?
     
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  7. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran


    As a matter of principle and not in defence of anyone in particular. The Hanafi position as stated by Imam Abu Jafar al-Tahawi (d.320) in his Ikhtilaaf al-Ulama and then it's abridgement Mukhtasar by Imam Abu Bakr al-Jassas (d.370), both, great Hanafi Imams say that OUR school says that there is no death penalty for non-Muslims for blasphemy and there is ta`zir for them.

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  8. Aqdas

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  9. Aqib alQadri

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    This nut case should be punished soon for becoming a murtad. (it seems he even doctored himself)
     
  10. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    Hello, just seen properly again what the good dr is proposing.

    He wants to change the worlds laws and have respect of religions? Good luck with that one. If I then said that the elephant God which the Hindus worship isn't going to help Hindus as its made out of plaster and can't even move...........will that make me guilty of blasphemy against the Hindus???
     
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    other meanings of the word doctor: to tamper with; falsify.

    which seems more like a middle name than a form of address, as in "tahir doctoring jhangvi". i suppose, we can bestow upon him the title of doctor-fiyli (doctor, the verb).

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    we can say tahir dr. instead of dr.tahir which makes more sense and is closer to the truth.



     
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  12. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    Its all me, me, me with this guy. Any chance for some cheap publicity and he'll take it. The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) gets insulted and it seems the good dr seems to be revelling in it. Terrible really
     
  13. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    but who wants the advocacy of a proven hypocrite?

    it is like aldrich ames teaching patriotism to the cambridge five; or ames (after his being outed) offering to prosecute the cambridge five on behalf of the british government.

    but we complain needlessly...

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  14. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    lol, the guy is singing to a different tune to the audience backhome.

    saw this on facebook:

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    lol, those UNO and other logos he has on that picture are used like the ISO, and other industry accreditation logos and watermarks people use when they are compliant to some "industry standards"
     
  15. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    not to mention that "he will be the first person to go to Pakistan to save the christian girls" if they are subject to 'such' laws.
     
  16. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Statement by Dr Tahir given to Danish TV - September, 2012

    QUOTE
    Whatever the "Law of Blasphemy" is - is NOT applicable on Non-Muslims. Is not applicable on Jews, and Christians and other Non-Muslims, minorities - it is just to be dealt with Muslims.
    UNQUOTE.

    He says this at 13:50 on this video:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hKE0Sd9SOrQ

    The above statement is indeed OPPOSITE to the CONSENSUS of the UMMA, and constitutes outright KUFR.

    According to Dr Tahir, the law of blasphemy does not apply to non-Muslims - so they cannot be punished for these acts. (Like making filthy movies about the Holy Prophet, insulting the Holy Prophet in the most disgusting manner, burning the Holy Qur'an, throwing the Holy Qur'an into the toilet etc). If the non-Muslims are not to be punished for these acts, it means they are free to do so, as many times as they want, unhindered - in fact, now duly licensed by the "decree" from Dr. Tahir.

    Dr. Tahir further says: "it (the Law of Blasphemy) is just to be dealt with Muslims." We ask him - which Muslim in his right mind does these derogatory acts? If the wretch does it, he is NOT considered a Muslim any more, he is out of the fold of Islam. But now such wretched renegades can claim that they are not Muslims any more, and - as per the "decree" of Dr. Tahir - they are now "exempt" from being punished under the Law of Blasphemy.

    So nobody should be punished! In one masterful, devilish stroke, Dr. Tahir gives a free hand to the entire world to degrade the Holy Prophet, slander him, malign him, call him the worst names possible, burn the Holy Qur'an etc - all this because he needs to please his pay-masters.

    But now even the Christians, Jews, and atheists of Europe have caught him blatantly lying, doing U-turns on his own lofty "stances". He fooled many Minhajis for a long time, and his pay-masters too. His pay-masters now are able to see through his guile, and are challenging his lies. Since the Wembley circus in September 2011, many Minhajis have repented. When will ALL the Minhajis drop him for good?
     

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