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Maslak of Quaid e azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah. http://books.nafseislam.com/details.php?book_id=901&book=quaid-e-azam-ka-maslak

Bok two. Maslak belief of Dr.Allama Iqbal Qadri.
http://books.nafseislam.com/details.php?book_id=429&book=maslake-allama-doctor-muhammad-iqbal-qadri

 

Jinah, saint (1,2) or secular? A sunni or ismaili?

 

This is a beautiful 10 minute discussion on Iqbal's love for the Beloved Prophet Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him and his family by Orya Maqbool Jan:

 

Who was Dr. Allama Iqbal (r). Very well explained by Syed Zaid Sahib. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5CCFDFFBA170A0B9

 

Very well replied brother Naqshbandi. Indeed Allama Iqbal (r) was a sunni hanafi qadri and Pakistan is his creation and dream for upcoming modern Islamic welfare state which will Insha Allah be muslims leader.
Pakistan is a reality and a nightmare for hindu mushrik zionists and jew zionists.

 

allama khadim hussain rizvi: allama iqbal ka ishq e raasbol

 

in fact, in an upcoming book [which is overdue by 2 months now] - i have quoted a lot of iqbal's poetry. there is no denying that some of his lines are immensely moving and inspirational for a muslim.

 

please excuse me for breaking the flow but these are some views about Muhammad Asad - seen through different lenses - and probably motivated by differing objectives and/or prejudices:

A Jewish Lawrence of Arabia

Berlin to Makkah

Jew Who Helped Invent the Modern Islamic State

The Road from Mecca

The Story of a Story of a Story

Each of these articles/essays have some information left out by others and occasionally present the exact same fact in a different light - giving it an altogether different meaning ...

 

I agree. But I don't think any aalim in Pakistan uses Iqbal's poetry as proof for rulings - yes they quote him in their speeches to drive home their point.

 

we only look at him as a poetic genius and a brilliant mind, a thinker; who was sincere in his love of Islam and genuinely concerned for the well-being of muslims. only that, and nothing more.

 

agreed. but he did not repent or show any regret on this either.

look, i personally would ignore his flaws for his memorable maqta'a of jawab e shikwah. all of this is fine. but just don't use his poetry as proof for islamic rulings.

 

agreed. but he did not repent or show any regret on this either.

 

I also understand why it must be hard for Indians to see Iqbal as we Pakistanis do. But partition has happened and won't unhappen (no matter how much those paleed Hindutva kafirs like Modi who drinks gao-mutra wish it Akhand Bharat or Greater India won't happen) so the best Muslims can do on both sides is protect their Islam but I feel that as the majority Muslim country it is Pakistan future and current role to protect the Muslims of the entire subcontinent first and especially our brethren in Kashmir against the baniya. I hope that one day soon it becomes official policy of Pakistan to allow any oppressed Muslim in the world who wishes to to move to Pakistan and get citizenship just as any jew can get Israeli citizenship since it's the only country made in the name of Islam. And insha'Allah next year in the elections we will see the rise of Islam in the elections with Sunni political parties at the fore for the first time. Dekho Dekho Kawn Aaya: Muhammad e Arabi Ka Deen Aaya! Labbayk Ya Rasool.Allah!

 

Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi admires Iqbal (Ra) for the same reason that other Sunnis do in Pakistan: he was a true ashiq e Rasool by the end of his life and his later poetry (Armaghan e Hijaz and Bal e Gibril) especially Zarb e Kaleem and the Farsi edition of Armaghan (most of his poetry is in Farsi this unknown to most people) reflect this. Yes he went through many different phases in his life and that's why he has often contradictory poems if you compare his earlier work (more secular) to his latter (much more Islamist). I believe like most Pakistani Sunni ulama that by the end of his life he was a wali but no one has to believe that (,his meetings with Data Sahib to get lassi in the flesh as recorded by his servant are evidence) but everyone believes he was an ashiq e Rasool. His stance on the issue of Ghazi Ilmuddin Shaheed ist evidence for that. This is why now secularists are trying to take Iqbal out of the syllabus in Pakistan because of he at the end wanted a Shariah based country and declared war against modernity and secularism. The subtitle to his last book Zarb e Kaleem is "dawr e hazir Kay khilaaf ilaan e Jang" (déclaration of war against the current age).
I guess my point is you can't pull out poetry he wrote in his 20s or 30s as an argument against him.as , like many people, his views evolved to the point where he is said to have yearned for Medina in his last days before he passed away. He wrote
"Aarzoo y ma zi naam e oost". Our honour is only from His name (Muhammad Sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam).

 

was a friend and great admirer of the najdi regime and Abdal-Aziz Ibn-Saud - read his "Road to Mecca".

his acquaintance with the blood-thirsty monarch began shortly after the second occupation of Hijaz muqaddas by the barbarous najdi madmen.

Muhammad Asad was a well-read and well-traveled intellectual - how could he not know the brutalities and massacres that rolled the bloody-drenched carpet upon which the aal-al-saud dynasty sashayed to power?

And yet, in his book, he chose to sanitize the image of abdal aziz and family as some "noble, well-bred and bounteous" Muslim rulers.

I doubt he would have done a great-job "reconstructing" Islam - that is the job for a Mujaddid!

 

I have heard that mufti-e-aazam-e-hind, the younger son of alahazrat, chided the people who were running pell-mell into Pakistan, leaving behind their mosques and graveyards - that is when he wrote his famous amal-e-be-nazeer and asked the people to stay put, defend their deen and property and recite this wird as a shield against the onslaught of the hindoos - and the villages where it was initiated indeed remained safe (this account is similar to that of dua-al-naasiri).

 

You have stirred a hornet's nest (and you will likely have fallen in several Pakistani's estimates!). Expect tons of brickbats.

To Pakistanis, Jinnah and Iqbal are icons, anointed national heros; just as for every Indian Bengali, Rabindranath Tagore, Subhash Bose, Satyajit Ray & Saurav Ganguly are demi-gods (Indians on this forum will immediately understand the parallel, else see here). These heros can't do anything wrong and every achievement (big or small) is due or traceable to them.

What gals me the most is that while it is understandable that masses in Pakistan would revere Jinnah & Iqbal, it is nauseating to see every sunni aalim do the same in public. I could be wrong but I think our ulemas are more guilty of this than deobandi ones; since the latter anyway don't think highly of wilayah.

Quaid-e-Azam & Allama titles are fine, but Hazrat, rahmatullah alayhi etc are (to my mind) misplaced.

As aH said, both these personalities have made tremendous contribution, but to exalt them to the status of high-ranking awliya is to demean the office of wilayah.


disclaimer: I am an Indian, and I don't have any sense of nationalism (an anti-nationalist, in current sense)

 

my personal view is both jinnah and iqbal did good things for muslims, but they should be treated as two other political leaders and thinkers.
i refuse to accept that they were divinely ordained and annointed messiahs. nor can i accept iqbal's poetry as proof for religious matters.

ironically, one of iqbal's finest poem is against this nationalism (based on geographic boundaries).

Allah ta'ala knows best.

 

nanak and ram in iqbal's bang e dara: