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Discussion in 'Aqidah/Kalam' started by AR Ahmed, Apr 4, 2023.

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  1. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    So now we have Irfan Shah's UK sidekick Munawwar Shah Bukhari of Sadat travels challenging on this masala. The guy says on camera that if what he says is not true then "May Allah cause him to die on kufr"! He even swears on the Quran that Irfan Shah tried to solve this behind closed doors!

    These people have no shame! This Munawwar Bukhari has fallen so low, I think they are competing amongst themselves who stoops to the lowest. No shame at all, only thing they know is tell everyone "we are Sayyeds, we are the rakhwalas of the religion" and then blatantly swear using the Holy Quran!

     
  2. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member



    Listen from 10 - 25 minutes. Emphatic response to Rafidhi Tola.
     
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  3. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Irfan Shah has lost his credibility altogether and has been fully exposed. An apology will not return his credibility, he is unfit to be called an imam of the sunni masses.

    Below is the welcome he received at Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi sahibs janazah and we can see that he is lacking "Sunni" supporters in the public. At every level he has been schooled by ulema in the basics and the awaam have seen this. One just has to read through general comments made by the public.

    He is only entertained by tafzilis!

     
  4. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    Based on the video below, Shah sahib and co will probably be consulting their travel agent about a return to the UK pretty soon. They should really apologise to Jalali Sahib and the Sunni public
     
  5. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

  7. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

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    I wonder when Irfan Shah will follow him now that the real lion is out of the cage.
     
  8. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

  9. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Tomorrow 1pm Pakistan time is his release InshaAllah.

     
  10. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    JazakAllah for the info @Sunni Jaag. I thought they were released but great news though. We need scholars like him back in the field.
     
  11. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

    I believe release is tomorrow 3pm Pakistan Time. Mubarak to all brothers. I wonder if Irfan Shah will fly to the UK now.
     
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  12. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    Alhamdulillah Dr Sahib application for bail has been accepted and they have been released. Mabruk to all brothers.
     
  13. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member


    Irfan Shah invited to accept defeat.
     
  14. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    and i forgot to add. he is a marja'a for the tafzilis.
     
  15. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    mufti ahmad yar khan sahib tawba karen aur ruju karen. mufti irfan shah sahib ke fatwa ke khilaaf hai.

    just so you know. mufti irfan shah sahib is sayyid. and everything he says is haqq.

    [/sarcasm]
     
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  16. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    khata ijtihadi
     

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  17. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    @AbdalQadir. I am surprised that Jalali Sahib's followers have yet to make the mujaddid claim but yeah that would tip Shah Sahib over the edge... he might Dr Tahir ul Qadri is more deserving of that title. After all he is the only one that Shah Sahib is yet to share a stage with, even if it might be virtually.
     
  18. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    @AbdalQadir. Everytime I listen to a video from Jalali sahib's camp, I hear that the case does not get heard because the opposing side claim they are not ready and it gets postponed. To be honest, if more Sunni figures put aside their differences with Jalali Sahib, he would be out by now. This is where Sunnis are weak. U got Nawaz and Maulana Diseal openly threatening the establishment and the army, and they are walking free.

    Shah sahib has now forgiven all his previous enemies and is sitting with them. I wonder what they will do with him next because it seems like Munawwar Jammati is running the show.
     
  19. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Given that Imran has spoken against france and their devils, it seems strange as to what exactly the establishment and authorities' agenda is (in Jalali case) - pro iran, or pro west or what? Is it just that due to local political maneuvering and pressuring by the peerzadas the police is incompetent to release Jalali? coz anyway these things take a long time for Desi authorities to sort out. even local pressure at mna level is enough to make a mess and cause delays.

    Double check with other brothers, but I see it as him trying to say he's following into the footsteps/teachings of Imam Rabbani. You think?

    I don't think anyone's making a case for a "mujaddid Jalali" just yet.

    It would be good to watch if they did make a case for "mujaddid Jalali", to be honest, just to make steam come out of Irfan Shah's ears! :) (don't rebut me on it. Just speaking facetiously)
     
  20. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    Also just seen a poster of a programme headlines by Shah Sahib and where Imam Ijaz Shami is listed as attending. I was unaware that he was in the same camp.
     

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