Co-Education = ?

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    so what is the basis for qaT'yi Haram?

    how about travelling in a plane or a bus with women?

    how about travelling in a train where there are women in the same compartment?

    how about visiting a hospital, getting admitted and staying there - where there are na maHram women?

    how about working in an organisation with na maHram women?

    what is the status of the income in which co-workers are women?
     
  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    i had a chance to meet mufti Mujeeb Ashraf Sahib(hafidhahullah), mufti-e-mahrashtra (a state in india), student of muft-e-azam-e-hind, a very senior scholar himself, and put this question to him, he replied that co-education is unequivocally haram, that no mufti would permit it and when i asked about the need to obtain fard-al-kifaya ilm he said that it's not even allowed for fard-al-ayn ilm.

    On the other hand, i attended a function of SDI's newly launched 'Intellectual Wing' and we had Allamah Qamaruzzaman Azami (hafidhahullah) and his son explaining the importance of technical knowledge and the need to get indian muslims well educated, in fact Allamah said that by 'knowledge' he meant that which enables a person to acquire new ideas by applying what he already knows i.e research and not just re-inventing the wheel.

    By Allah (The Exalted) 's grace DI is soon starting a branch of 'daar-ul-madinah', an islamic school system in Mumbai. May Allah (azzawajal) grant them success. And SDI already runs one at mahapoli but i don't know much about the syllabus, conditions there except that the students' uniform is traditional. We need more such institutions, especially for higher studies. Till then we remain, i feel, sinning?
     
  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Also there is the issue about workplaces.

    Shouldn't jobs at places where there's free mixing of genders be haram for the same reasons?

    That would narrow the means of halal rizq even further, especially in the countries where muslims are a minority.
     
  4. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Assalaamua'laikum-wa-rahmatullahi-wa-barakatuhu.

    These questions have been haunting me for the past one month or so:

    1] Is co-education haram-mutlaq?
    2] Are there any circumstances which would mitigate the ruling?
    3] Is there any place on earth where the so-called 'secular' sciences, especially the professional courses, are taught without co-ed?

    I've discussed this before via pm but one of my friends, who is also a freshly graduated scholar, has succeeded in forcing me to re-think about this.
    His stance, which is also the stance of all scholars iv'e so far talked to, is that co-ed is haram-mutlaq.

    He has also given me the scares by quoting Imam Asqalani (rahimahullah) who, he said, quotes Imam Ghazali (rahimahullah) as:

    " Worry about others only to the extent that the shariah obliges you to and no more. Spend the rest of your energies worrying about yourself. Allah (azzawajal) aids HIS deen even through fasiqs. So beware lest you be aiding the deen while believing that you are being rewarded for it but in truth you are constantly harming your akhira by commiting haram. "

    So he concludes that EVEN IF you are studying the sciences to help the deen, your'e still committing haram and the shariah hasn't burdened you with this. He also believes that many of the professions currently being pursued can actually be lived without with no harm to the community as many of them don't even qualify for 'fard-al-kifaya' and the little need that there may be for them can be satisfied by the several non-muslim professionals who are pursuing them anyways.

    Now, iv'e also heard scholars (ex: Allama Qamaruzzama Azmi, hafidhhullah) say that muslims should excel in all fields of knowledge, that we need muslims to be engineers, doctors etc. and iv'e heard mufti akmal say that those who study the 'secular' sciences with the niyyah of aiding the deen, then this study is of theirs will not be counted as dunya but infact its ayan-e-deen for them!

    So, as anyone can see, the two pictures don't add up.

    He has advised me to contact Mufti Nizamuddin Mubarakpuri to see if any possibility of jawaz exists. But i don't see how i'll get a fatwa over the phone.

    Can any of the brothers help?

    JazakAllah.
    Wassalaam.
     

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