Cult Mind Control

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    Asrar Rashid
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    Question: What is the legal ruling regarding a sufi shaykh who believes Allah is in every place with His Divine Essence? I am studying at (name ommitted) College and the shaykhs here teach that Allah is in every place with His Divine Essence.

    Answer: Imam Muhammmad Ibn Balban Hanbali writes 'Whoever believes or says Allah with His Divine Essence is in every place or in a place then he is a kafir.' (Qalaid alI'qyan). The 'sufi shaykhs' you speak of are not ulama but ignorant people. Their college is used as a place of spiritual abuse and in many instances a place of refuge for runaways. These 'sufi shaykhs' at this college are not ulama and defraud people via business, fraud and taking of assets and inheritance. They frighten those who oppose them with jinn and pretend they have jinn murids. In reality these are phobia methods used by such fraudsters to frighten their opponents from the lay people. These type of 'sufi' groups work on nepotism. Their speeches are not based on knowledge but anecdotes and stories regarding their 'miracles'. Their motives are only to recruit people and keep them subservient. This particular group has many former 'murids' who know regarding the frauds of these 'sufi shaykhs' but are frightened to come out. This particular belief of 'Allah being everywhere' is just the tip of the iceberg of ignorance, fraud and spiritual abuse. Such people are just running a con in the name of religion.
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  2. Moriarty

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  3. Moriarty

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    Watching the entire documentary on narcissism is another:

  4. Moriarty

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    How the narcissist cult leader reacts when insulted:

  5. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    From the introduction of the work 'Sufi Lighthouse':

    Introduction to New Book The Sufi Lighthouse: Illuminating Spiritual Abuse


    Spiritual abuse assumes many different forms. Such manifestations may be mild, or they can be quite intense and malevolent.

    No religious or mystical tradition is immune from the presence of spiritual abuse, for, wherever there are people who are seeking to become closer to essential truths, purpose, and meaning, there will be individuals seeking to generate counterfeit currency to offer to those who are unaware of, or incautious toward, the dangers which lie in wait along the spiritual path.

    Some instances of spiritual abuse may involve gullible individuals who are induced to become committed to a ‘guide’ or teacher who, when examined even superficially in an impartial manner, may exhibit many of the warning characteristics of a spiritual charlatan. Unfortunately, in many other cases, the problem of recognition with respect to a given ‘false teacher’ becomes much more difficult and subtle.

    Just as there are hack engravers and master engravers who are involved in the production of counterfeit money, so, too, there are huge differences in the level of ‘artistry’ exhibited by those who would pass themselves off as authentic spiritual guides. Some fraudulent guides are fairly easy to spot, but there are others who present a far greater challenge.

    Spiritual abuse may occur in neighborhood churches, mosques, temples, centers, and other places of religious/spiritual gathering. This problem also may take place in much more exotic and/or remote settings.

    Fraudulent teachers may call themselves a guru, shaykh, rimpoche, monk, priest, imam, apostle, avatar, or minister. They also may call themselves educators, revolutionaries, political leaders, and freedom fighters.

    All forms of terrorism, whether these be acts of individuals or of states, presuppose the existence of spiritual abuse. Terrorism cannot occur unless someone -- a leader, master, or authority figure -- uses techniques of undue influence to induce other people -- followers, initiates, devotees, citizens -- to commit atrocities in the name of Divinity, spiritual purity, Justice, and Truth. All such forms of inducement are expressions of spiritual abuse.

    The present book, The Sufi Lighthouse: Illuminating Spiritual Abuse, arises out of my experiences with a spiritual charlatan who called himself a Sufi shaykh or guide. Although a number of chapters within this book entail discussions which focus on themes that are steeped in the terminology of Islam, in general, and the Sufi Path in particular, much of this book is of relevance to anyone who is interested in, or struggling with, problems of spirituality and mysticism, irrespective of the particular tradition with which he or she may identify.

    In addition, sometimes, it is easier to recognize a problem in one’s own life when one is, first, introduced to a given issue in a context which, initially, seems to be far removed from one’s everyday commitments and priorities. More specifically, while some of the chapters of The Sufi Lighthouse: Illiminating Spiritual Abuse have a specific Sufi/Islamic flavor to them, anyone who has an interest in spirituality will be able to feel a sense of resonance with the issues and problems which are being discussed in conjunction with the Sufi mystical tradition.

    Furthermore, there are many other chapters in The Sufi Lighthouse: Illuminating Spiritual Abuse which are written in a way that, hopefully, will provide a more universal appeal to readers who come from a non-Muslim, and/or non-Sufi background. In other words, these other chapters explore themes which have an applicability to a variety of spiritual traditions beyond that of Islam and the Sufi path.

    There are many people within the Sufi/Muslim community who will give lip service to the idea that there have been and, probably, are some individuals who, in both the past and the present, have sought to pass themselves off as authentic spiritual guides, when, in truth, they were, or are, spiritual counterfeits. However, these same people who may be willing to give lip service to this issue tend to feel that it is unseemly and, somehow, inappropriate to suppose that this is issue is anything more than a marginal, incidental, isolated, and occasional problem.

    Based on my research of the past several years, the problems being addressed in this book are both substantial and pervasive. This does not mean that everyone who calls himself or herself a spiritual guide is a charlatan, for I do believe, on the basis of personal experience, that authentic, Sufi teachers do exist in this day and age, but, nonetheless, at the same time, I believe -- based on my own experiences, research, and the communications of many people from different parts of the world -- there are an array of spiritually abusive relationships that are being inflicted on thousands of people by Sufi charlatans in countries around the world, including the United States and Canada.

    This problem is not small. It is huge, but all too many people within the Sufi/Muslim community are in denial about the existence of such spiritual abuse and seem to feel that if they just pull the covers up over their heads, the problem, like any good boogeyman, will just disappear into the night. This may have worked when one was a child, but it will not work now.

    Perhaps, because of the events of 9-11, Muslims and Sufis are feeling so defensive that they believe any attempt to publically examine the issue of spiritual abuse within the Sufi/Muslim community is ill-considered under the present circumstances. The search for truth will always be an inconvenience for those who have vested interests to protect.

    I, obviously, am of a different opinion. In fact, I believe that the shadow cast by the tragedy of 9-11 offers a tremendous opportunity to begin to critically examine the dynamics and nature of spiritual abuse -- both within Muslim and non-Muslim communities.

    This is my belief for a number of reasons. Foremost among these reasons is the following one: spiritual abuse was at the heart of the 9-11 tragedies -- not only in terms of the histories of the individuals who plotted and carried out such acts of terrorism (although I am not suggesting, here, that any of those individuals claimed to be a Sufi or had a Sufi teacher), but also in relation to the histories of those government and media figures around the world who, either intentionally or unintentionally, helped bring about a set of circumstances which were conducive to the occurrence of the events on 9-11.

    At first blush, the problems of spiritual abuse in the Sufi/Muslim community might seem to have little to do with the events of 9-11. However, when one begins to probe the matter further, one starts to understand that the dynamics and factors which are in play in the realm of spiritual abuse in conjunction with the Sufi path, also are in play in the realm of terrorism and the abusive effects which international economic and political policy have upon the souls of people throughout the world.

    Beginnings are always difficult. But, begin we must.

    Although the primary focus of the present work revolves about the issue of spiritual abuse, virtually all of the principles, themes, and dynamics which are explored in the following pages are fully applicable to a wide variety of situations in which abuse is being perpetrated even though the nature of such abuse, at least on the surface, may appear to be removed from the mystical quest. The dynamics of personal relationships, families, schools, organizations, corporations, and governments are all capable of giving expression to abusive relationships ... in fact, one might wish to argue that abuse, whatever its particular mode of manifestation, constitutes a violation of another individual’s basic rights as a human being such that the latter’s search for truth, meaning, purpose, and identity are undermined, disrupted, thwarted, and/or corrupted by another person or group of people (or both).

    One should feel free to read the essays in whatever order one likes. Although the chapters are, hopefully, complementary with respect to each other, they also can be read independently of, and do not presuppose, one another.
  6. Moriarty

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  7. Unbeknown

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    another important point he stressed was that greatness is not by birth but by qualifications and in case of wilayah - by the selection of the Almighty and then he gave the example of Gawth-e-Pak (raDiyAllahu'anhu) - that he is the Chief of all awliya whereas his brother, though equal to him in inheritance, is not equal to him in station, in-fact most don't even know that Gawth-e-Pak had a brother.

    I wish shah sahib had realized the same point in the mas'ala of afzaliyyat - that it is by the explicit granting of Allah ta'ala and not by birth. So the Shaykhayn Kareemayn are afDal - though they are not from the ahl-e-bayt-e-athaar.

    Unfortunately, some of shah sahib's poetry clearly shows his tafzili leanings.

    it was mentioned in another thread that he changed his stance on afzaliyyat during his last days. Hope that it is true.

    waAllahu a'alam.
  8. Moriarty

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  9. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Hanafi-Maturidi

    advice from shah sahīb [rahimahullah] with regards to pīrs of today: 'just sit at home, perform your salah, obey Allāh and His Messenger [sallāllahu alayhī wa salam] and consider yourself an inhabitant of jannāh'.
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  10. Moriarty

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    Naseer Shah on cult leaders:

  11. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Minhaji Suluk?

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  12. FaqirHaider

    FaqirHaider اللَه المقدر والعالم شؤون لا تكثر لهمك ما قدر يكون

    I don't think the skt welfare group picture is fair play, since these youngsters are activists before anything else, its a trend in western societies for welfare organizations to be mixed. As for the other pictures , I have seen similar actions from the entourage of Shaykh Hisham Kabbani (America) and I mean it is almost encouraged as I was in his group for 2 years; they would hold a samaa' with young girls(ages 9-15) singing qasida infront a mixed gathering, which was really disturbing first time I saw it.

    As for Shaykh Nazim (Cyprus); most people doing such actions (also kissing and hugging) are often converts to islam from european countries and they ( the woman) don't know anything (and when told are stubborn) about the shar'i rulings, and also the shaykh methodology warped as he grew aged, and it is possible due to this some comprehension on the fiqhi mas'alas were lost; keeping in mind he lives in post secular turkey and even worse in cyprus (half greek).

    Regardless of the reasons I provided (purely for the sake of argument), our mashaikh have clearly condemned such acts , and classified them as ghayr shari, and bereft ones chance any true spiritual aspiration.

    Now my point is, due to these shaykhs ^ not being strict in these matters, the gullible and illiterate cult entrapped mureeds (especially from desi backround since they should know better), and also arab woman take it as being permissible for themselves to act this way.
  13. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

    Especially that last photo of the women - would you want a photo of your wife, mother, sister, daughter posted on some random forum on the internet? (regardless of whether they should have taken that photo or not, have already posted it on Facebook or wherever else on the internet, etc.)
  14. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

    What is the need to post photos of those brothers and sisters on this forum? Why not post a link to the photos instead? Would you want a photo of yourself posted on some random forum on the internet?
  15. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

    Suluk at it's finest!
  16. Harris786

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    Yeah i thought that also, then i found the murid handbook "from above" which stated " Your brothers and sisters in the tariqa are your family and immediate community. "

    the word tariqa was placed in italics in the handbook for emphasis.
  17. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Active Member

    I see that sunniport is hurting these heretics quite a bit, and that's why you are probably here in spite of claiming that this website cannot be taken "seriously".
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  18. themuj4h1d

    themuj4h1d New Member

    I find most of these posts ridiculous and replies to me for the sake of replying. I didn't say that anyone outside the Tariqa should be avoided... The facts and evidence is against you anyway - having anecdotal evidence here and there doesn't prove it's policy "from above".

    I'm not in any Tariqa so accuse me of what you want - it's expected

    Saying x y or x scholar should be avoided, and making personal
    attacks, while hiding behind an alias and having no scholarly credentials is pointless - just some advice, most people don't take you seriously.

    May Allah save us from the harms of our tongues, and guide us all. Ameen.
  19. Moriarty

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    But many people who are in cults will be in denial and blind to the fact that they are in a manipulated and mind controlled. If cults showed their true agenda from the onset very few people will join them.
    It is only once you have committed yourself that you become a part of the workings of the group.

    When reading these questions, the reader should be honest to himself and firstly to his Lord. Whether he denies it to others he cannot deny the truthful answer to himself and especially to his Creator.

    The way to answer is yes or no. The result is given at the end.
    So here are some questions for them to ask regarding their group, themselves or their leader:

    When you ask yourself "Am I in a cult?" you think straight away... "Of course not, I would never join a cult..."

    Have your friends or family commented that you have changed and that they don't really like the changes? (This includes beliefs, principles, opinions, attitudes)

    Have you noticed that the groups ideas have filtered into all areas of your life, work social, personal life?

    Do you find it boring or awkward spending time with people outside the group because they seem boring, or they don't understand the language of the group? (Sunnis that you have severed ties with solely because of the group)

    Do you believe that outsiders are not on the same level as you and other group members? (many 'sufi' cultists sound patronising, condescending and self righteous)

    Do you consider that the groups ideas and beliefs are the way forward in sorting out the problems of the world? (As opposed to the wider Sunni scholarship you believe your leader should lead the Ulama and they should go under his banner. In some cases dreams are reported that the leader was leading the Ulama of the world etc)

    Or have you thought that if only everyone knew this stuff the world would be a different place? (stuff that only your group leader knows as oppose to the general Ulama)

    Has someone close to you told you that they think you are in a cult?

    Do you sometimes feel like you know more than outsiders about life, about people, about the world?

    Have people said that you are pushy or obsessive about the group?

    Questions regarding the leader:

    Do you think the leader is always right?

    Do you feel very indebted to the leader and he or she is not afraid to remind you of this?

    Does the leader make all the decisions, is the final judge, and is answerable to no-one but himself?

    Does he change his mind whenever it suits him, and it usually for his benefit?

    Have you noticed that there is one set of rules for the leader or elite, another set for the group members?

    Do you ever feel bad or guilty for not behaving as the leader/group says you should? (when you know in some cases that the order is against shariah, or in other cases against your better feeling)

    Do you find that you have lots of very strong emotions, sometimes for no apparent reason?

    Do you sometimes feel alone when there seems no real need to feel lonely?

    Are you experiencing frustration because you can't seem to get the groups techniques to work for you?

    Is marriage only encouraged within the group, as well as trade? (as opposed to the wider Sunni community)

    Have you ever left a group meeting feeling angry and vowing never to return and you went back anyway?

    In some cases has the group leader held you back from things you wanted to do, like studies for instance, and instead used you for the benefit of his group or himself? (this may happen under the guise of tariqah, suluk etc)

    Can you write down 3 defects or faults of the group's leader?

    When you think of these defects are you trying to justify those faults or reason them away?

    If you cannot name 3 defects, or you justify any potential problems, the chances are that there is more going on in the group than you are aware of....
    If you answered mostly yes, the chances are that there is mind control being used against you in the group.

    Some people dismiss this by saying this is only true for non Muslims. That is not the case. Brainwashing, mind control and other psychological methods have been used for centuries against Muslims by deviants. Read the history of the false prophets and how they brainwashed their followers who were formerly Muslim. Read on the false sufi guides and mahdi claimants in history and how they deluded their followers with trickery. The history books are replete with such examples.

    Only by understanding how cults actually trick and deceive people can you get to the point of realizing that you have been recruited into a cult.

    Rasputin was not only a Russian phenomenon, their have been many prior to Rasputin in the Muslim world. Subtle and obvious, but it is the more subtle ones that stay aloof from detection.

    Learn about psychopaths, mind control and cults and you will be able to detect a lot.

    The questions that can be added:

    Your shaykh sells his cult via miracles and visions. As far as you know these are claims, but have you experienced anything for real?

    If you claim you have, are you sure it was not your mind playing you into thinking you are experiencing something?

    Does your shaykh ever contradict himself?

    Does your shaykh use stories of service to the guide and defense of the guide in order to encourage the aspirants to serve him?

    Are you really sincere in the group or do you show off to other members?

    Is your reason for being in the group so you maintain or attain a position?

    What benefit are you getting from being in the group? Be honest to yourself, is it fame and position or some other worldly benefit? Are you really sincere for Allah or are you gaining something and fooling yourself that you are sincere?

    Why does the shaykh place 'muqaddams' who themselves are ignorant, arrogant and self righteous?

    If you joined such a group why were you propelled to a 'role' before you were spiritually prepared?

    Is there an over emphasis on money collecting?

    As a group member do you really know where all the money goes?

    Have you ever traveled and lived with your shaykh?

    Have you ever dealt in money with him?

    How much time have you spent with him and how close have you been to him?

    Does he stay aloof from the cult members and when he is in their presence it is a controlled environment?

    How much of his background do you really know? Do you know how he lived his life prior to becoming a cult leader?

    Is everything you know about him from himself or have you verified from his home city from third party sources?

    The people he claims support him as a cult leader, have you verified everything from them and do you even know who they are?

    Does your leader covertly discredit other scholars and when he meets them or they pass away he praises them to attain credibility from their followers?

    How many times have you been to his home?

    How does your shaykh earn a living and where does he get his money from?
    The above needs to be checked if he lives in a mansion with a swimming pool and flies first class to stay in five star hotels.

    Does your shaykh become extremely angry when anything is questioned?

    Does your shaykh have a pyramid style organisation, where he gives orders from the top which then trickles down? (this is done so no one can say it is the leader who is bad but the followers, if he gave direct orders he will be exposed)

    Does your shaykh leave certain things vague and leaves people confused until he can trust them? This will include beliefs and fiqh rulings.

    Does your shaykh have no certain direction and is abrupt in his choices? (Narcissistic Personalities tend to be like that)

    How does your shaykh treat his family? Is he abusive to women? (This last question maybe dismissed that 'it is his private life'. But that contradicts the teachings of Islam where we are told that 'The best of you are the best to their families' etc)

    The list to make people think can be expanded.

    Of course one or two things maybe found in an individual but if most of thhese things are found then alarm bells should ring. These questions are simply there to make people think...

    A few more for the cult member to think of:

    As an individual do you have self low confidence?

    Do you consider your own understanding as weak and irrelevant?

    By default then do you think that the only person who can understand religion correctly for the context of the modern age is your shaykh and everyone falls short?

    In effect does that make you more susceptible and easily accepting of any opinion that the shaykh puts forward even if it does contradict your former beliefs and convictions? In that case even if does contradict great scholars of the past?

    Since you have joined the group have you lost former friends based on their differences with your group or shaykh even though they are Sunni?

    Have you and others been told to shun other Sunnis but yet your group and its leader keep links with deviants?

    Have you changed your body language and the way you speak putting on a different persona since you have joined the group?

    Does the group try its utmost best to attract the rich, famous and attractive as opposed to the simple folk?

    Do many of the members have insecurities about themselves, whether regarding their race (like pretending to be white or Arab) or a strong insecurity oftheir religion (like not wanting to be seen as 'Barelawi')?
  20. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    You should read the "are you brain washed" thread.

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