Does Sh. Asrar Rashid endorse Fatwa of Alahazrat Imam Ahmed on Deobandis

Why didn't you notice the part where he says we have differences? What are those differences?

 

Khalid lives in Manchester and not Birmingham. Why should only Asrar challenge him? There are hundreds of Urdu speaking Ulama in UK. Why haven't they challenged him? Hasn't Shaykh Asrar already refuted Nuh Keller's article defending Deobandis? Even the likes of certain 'Rizwis' who refute Sunnis are quiet against Keller or Khalid Mahmood.

Besides Bareilly Ulama have given an award to Pir Saqiib (who trims the beard and does qawwali). Why don't you want him to refute Khalid Mahmood?

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In the above you have contradicted yourself by saying qawali is the same as sama', so if I decide to use the term interchangeably why does it matter?

Can you please show me the statement of Imam Abu Hanifah (quddisa sirruhu) which prohibits instruments from the zaahir alriwayah or in a reliable source? It would be appreciated my brother as an increase in my knowledge.

 

Okay, all my mistake,
here, I wait for the day to see Asrar Rashid challenging Deobandis and having a debate with them. OK. Let us see, deobandi kingpin Khalid Mahmood is still living, the last living deobandi legend, the author of 8 volume disparaging book sitting in his neighborhood.

 

The point was to show you the level of yours truly. I did not know Imam Abu Hanifa knew Urdu. What kind of dumb logic is that.

Qawwali is an urdu word which means Sufi Sama with Music, the objection is on musical instruments and not on Sama without music. In Farsi the word is Sama for both with Musical instruments or without musical instruments, and same goes in Arabic.

Musical instruments were prohibited by all 4 imams, not because of the reason Asrar Rashid gave. Got it ?

 

What opinions of Sh Asrar are those you are referring to?

 

So you have moved away from Deobandis ro Qawwali. I didn't know Imam A'zam has a statement on Qawwali. Can you present it?

 

so it wasn't because of Imam Abu Hanifah and all great Hanafi scholars but it was because of present day Qawwals,

I know the level now.

 

Unless you are a moderator of sunniport, here you can do Takfir and endorse Fisq under the pretext they are entitled to there opinion and anger expression.

Its just mostly jahil brelwis who get angry act like that. If you say in India what Asrar said you would have got several Fatawa and major insults. Like how the people of sunniport do. They are thr brelwi version of ahbash harari.

 

Imam al-Ghazali (may Allah shower His mercy upon him) mentions in his Ihya: "It is impermissible to ascribe an enormity [kabira] to a Muslim without due verification [tahqiq]"

 

I think the problem this troll has is why is Yasser praising Sh Asrar despite the fact Shaykh does not endorse deviation or deviant positions? Yet at the same time we have individuals who mix and endorse deviants and are never praised. I know of numerous salafis who like Shaykh despite him refuting them.
It is definitely not down to him abandoning Ala Hazrat.

 

Ala Hazrat identified himself as Maturidi.

If a Deobandi agrees with Shaykh Asrar, how does that necessitate that Shaykh Asrar and the Deobandi are friends. You've made a conclusion without any basis.

Secondly, you have mentioned that Shaykh Asrar began with using Ala Hazrat and has now moved away from Ala Hazrat--once again, a baseless accusation. Shaykh Asrar has been at the forefront of promoting Ala Hazrat to English-speaking communities. Not only has he defended the works of Ala Hazrat, but has also been vocal against those who disparage the Imam.

This is beyond stupidity.

 

Where has he befriended the Deo, the Deo just supported his stance. Like Waqas said that this is a ridiculous thread and you are just stirring trouble. I know the Shaykh personally and his stance on the deos is still the same, so instead of trying to cause mischief, back him on the stance he has taken against the Amar. He is one of our most fearless scholars, who speaks out on every pressing issue. Yet that is not good enough for narrow minded idiots like yourself , who pick on non-issues and try to make it a big hooh hah, just for your cheap amusements. If you are sincere and the conclusion you made from statement from the deo shows that you are not or just stupid, go and speak to Shaykh Asrar. He will tell you his stance on deos and why he refers himself as an 'Ashari' and whilst you are there, he will teach one or two things about logic that you clearly lack. Really laughable, seems that you are caught up in the clown season.

Are you an imbecile?
what makes you draw that conclusion except your stupidity?

 

Basir yaara, you need to prove that the deobandi in question is asrars bredrin... You seem to be alluding to this.
If you can't prove it then please stop with the insinuations and accusations.

 

The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “A man is upon the religion of his friend, so let one of you look at whom he befriends.”

Guy starts his career with AlaHazrat books and then slowly changes his tune, now says don't identify yourself as Barelwi but as Ashari or Maturidi.

There is a difference between WAS endorsing (past tense) old videos... while the ground reality is different.

 

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شَاتَمَنِي كَلْبُ بَنِي مَسْمَعٍ = فَصُنْتُ عَنْهُ النَّفْسَ وَالْعِرْضَا
وَلَمْ أُجِبْهُ لِاحْتِقَارِي لَهُ = مَنْ ذَا يَعَضُّ الْكَلْبَ إِنْ عَضَّا​

 

This whole thread is ridiculous, where has shaykh asrar rashid ever said he doesn't endorse the fatawa against deobandis? There is a full clip in YouTube of the shaykh refuting deobandis and their beliefs:



People need to really be careful what they post and read things properly beforehand

 

Are you an imbecile?
what makes you draw that conclusion except your stupidity?

 

when the hog's defiant snort, him galls
the lion his brother, the wily renart calls

 

Mohammad Yasir Deobandi and his gulag team have been vocal critics of Alahazrat Imam Ahmed Raza Khan. Has Asrar Rashid changed his position and now accepting Deobandis and Wahhabis ?