Hamza on Roger Scruton

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by abu Hasan, Jan 23, 2020.

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    all are bunch of idiots - and like every sphere of life in today's world, incompetents, ignoramuses, idiots and scoundrels are leaders, and being given space to talk and paraded as the wise. bald faced liars and their pathetic lies are lapped up as sacrosanct truth.

    just as foretold. this should reinvigorate your belief because it is a mujizah of our master sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam. (i.e. the prophecy about incompetent people ruling the roost).

    ayan hirsi and other parasites like her dwell on the islamophobia that is rife in the world. the surest way to make a lot of money and fame in these times is to be an "ex-muslim". it is a successful business model. al-iyadhu billah. they get invited to places, and are given space to unload the filth of their minds.

    they can do all they want, but islam will be victorious. islam will never be subdued.
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  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    according to your link, roger's the "shaykh" of the murtad ed husain

  3. Mehmet Sekil

    Mehmet Sekil Active Member


    Religious freedom and secular law became keen interests of his. In an essay published last year, Sir Roger was critical of “Islamism” but praised Islam, saying that the Western notion of citizenship, even though it confined religion to the private sphere, was worth defending—“but only if we recognize the truth of which Islam reminds us: citizenship is not enough, and it will endure only if it is associated with meanings to which the rising generation can attach its hopes and its search for identity.”


    Meanwhile of course, I entirely agree with what Ayaan Hirsi Ali says, that there are two Islams, there’s the Islam of Mecca, the original revelation which gifted the Muslims with a peaceful way of life which was theirs and which included them, and then there’s the Islam of Medina when the prophet had been forced into exile and was in fighting mood, and the Medina Surahs of the Koran is full of this anger and violence and need to impose things and that’s a different thing altogether. And I think the Muslims who settle into the Meccan way of life are obviously perfect citizens, they have the inner serenity that the citizen should have and we ought to learn to appreciate that and encourage it.

    Ali Jifri and Omar bin Hafiz are known to propogate the narrative that we are now living in the Makkan Period. Did the Ulama say there is two Islam's?

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