I will be reading the book from the above link only due to it being the official website endorsed by Shaykh Hisham. There are countless other websites such as http://www.sheiknazim2.com/ and http://www.sheiknazim.com that claim to be officially endorsed by Shaykh Nazim but they're not. AbdalQadir if he is an imposter as you so strongly put it are you then saying Shaykh Hisham is lying in the video below (about the blessed Ziyarah of our Beloved Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam)? Can you please ask Syed Turab-ul-Haq Qadri Saheb what his thoughts are on this video and also if he has questions but cannot get through to Shaykh Nazim/Hisham then PM me i'll do my best: http://media.islamicsupremecouncil.org/Prophet_saw_s_attendance_of_a_Mawlid_in_Yogyakarta_Indonesia-1172.html
By all means, investigate into the 3aqidah and manhaj of nazim and kabbani. Might I suggest you start with "Mercy Oceans", and work your way further up.
So Shaykh Nazim/Hisham are not to be trusted due to second hand information. But Shaykh Abdallah al-Hariry should be trusted becuase of a letter received second hand and that he has heard nothing against him. Aqeedah and NOT actions forms the basis of who is within the bounds of the Ahle Sunnah. I really do think before providing someone with an answer some sort of first hand research should be carried out otherwise a simple answer of 'I don't know' should be given. If Syed Turab-ul-Haq Qadri Saheb has any questions relating to the aqeedah of Shaykh Nazim/Hisham then I think he should ask them directly. They can get in touch very easily and would welcome his questions with open arms.
Assalamu Alaikum Dear abu Hasan I only posted it out of good intentions.I wished to know the view points of Barelwi Scholars about these Naqshbandi shuyukhs. The links to my post is here: 1st quote: http://www.aicp.org/islamic-information-mainmenu-42/english-mainmenu-44/104-sufism-vs-sufi-claimers 2nd quote: http://www.aicp.org/SupportingDocs/QubrusiNegatesIslam.pdf I do only have great regards for Naqshbandi Shuyukh and am especially influenced by the Maktubat-i Imam Rabbani(qs), but these controversial shaykhs seem not to qoute Maktubat much.I do not know why? Now I am eager to know your viewpoints about them.Thanks in advance. Salam
:s1: Sidi AQ, Thanks for your links. I had never before known Shah Turabul Haq sahib's unequivocal position on Shaykh Nazim and Sh. Kabbani before. He is very clear and straight-talking. That is news indeed.
i would have deleted absalih's post. but i have let it be for one last time. and this is not about my own viewpoint about the issue. ---- please remember to read the rules. and if anyone breaches rules, action will be taken without notice. we will delete any cut-n-paste if the source is not mentioned or attributed as appropriate. i remind everyone once again: by joining this forum, you have agreed to the terms and conditions of using this forum; not having read the rules is not an excuse. wa's salam.
I would like to add to absalih's post and clarify that I am *NOT* a Habashiy or of the Murabitun. It is nothing but a blackmail and a smear campaign by the thugs of perennialism to label anyone who criticizes these impostors as Habashi or from the Murabitun. The truth of the matter is that as much as the Habashis and Murabitun might deviate on certain points from mainstream Sunnis, and as much headaches as some Habashis (awam) might cause with some of their antics, they are still leagues ahead and nearer to the ways of mainstream Ahlus Sunnah and still have far more dignity and integrity than the perennialist cult of nazim, nuh keller, hamza yusuf et al. SENIOR desi 3ulema ALSO warn against this man and the fitnah of his cult. Shah Turabul Haq sahab hafizdhahullah has openly spoken against him on his website. Another big Sunni Barelwi scholar who I do not wish to name, also says that nazim is an impostor and an enemy of religion. Here is Shah Turabul Haq Sahab on tahirul qadri http://www.ahlesunnat.net/khzemaan/audio/0322.mp3 http://www.ahlesunnat.net/khzemaan/audio/0471.mp3 Here are his thoughts on nazim and his cult http://www.ahlesunnat.net/khzemaan/audio/0592.mp3 Here are his thoughts on Shaykh AbdAllah al-Harariy http://www.ahlesunnat.net/khzemaan/audio/0007.mp3
there is actually a very good lesson in this post concerning the use of alayhi's salam for a non Prophet. Notice the way he firsts send salutations to the Nabi `alayhi's salatu wa's salam then uses the alayhi's salam thereafter for Imam Mahdi.
PEOPLE are defined by the manhaj of the Ahlus Sunnah. Not the other way round. I believe nazim al-qubrusi and hisham kabbani to be severe deviants and enemies of Islam like tahirul padri, far worse than wahabis and rafidis put together ("fraud" is too little a word) and I believe anyone who defends them knowing of their deviancies is also like them and deserving of any Muslim's scorn, much less a Sunni Muslim's scorn. Just as I do not know these two pir sahab's you speak of, in any manner - positive or negative, (of course it's my duty to think nicely of them since I have no reason to think negatively) - it is well possible they too do not know much about some hucksters being hucksters.
Imposters? you are calling Shaykh Nazim, Shaykh Hisham, Shaykh Gibril etc. frauds? Why don't you put this to Pir Syed Irfan Shah Saheb and Hazrat Khwajah Sufi Arshad Mehmood Aslami Saheb and see what they say.
jazak Allah khayr. i didn't know that as being a direct attribution to Imam Mehdi as well, although my assumption about what you said was close, that obviously he will aid Seyyidina 3Eisa and complement him in his tasks.
imam ibn hajar says that mahdi's doing this does not contradict with the report of sayyiduna yisa alayhi's salam doing the same. wAllahu ta'ala a'alam.
you sure brother? to my knowledge, the breaking of the cross and killing of the swine will be done by Seyyidina Ruhullah 3Eisa, 3ala nabiyyina wa 3alahis salam.
there are many hadith that tell us about the signs of mahdi `ala nabiyyina wa `alayhi's salatu wa's salam. see al-arf al-wardi fi akhbar al-mahdi by imam al-suyuti and al-burhan fi alamati mahdi akhiri'z zaman by ali al-muttaqi al-hindi [of kanz al-'ummal fame]. the latter being written to refute the claim of an indian sayyid (and thereafter his followers) that he is the promised mahdi. his followers are known as 'mahdavi' (and as 'dayirah waley' in south-india), and have strange ideas and eccentric practices; some also believe that sayyiduna yisa `alayhi's salam came down and passed away. [it is central: because no mahdi without the company of sayyiduna yisa `alayhi's salam] imam ibn Hajar in his al-qawl al-mukhtasar enumerated signs about and concerning the mahdi `alayhi's salam in hadith (63), in the sayings of SaHabah (39,) in the sayings of tabi'yin and their successors (57) ---- as asif mentioned, the mahdi's name will be muhammad; and his father's name will be abdullah; he will be a Hasani sayyid and he speaks with some difficulty [a heaviness in his tongue]. so much so that he will slap his thigh in frustration, when he is slowed down in his speech. the mahdi will have a black mole (on his right cheek). the mahdi will 'break the cross, and kill the swine' - and he will not join hands with christians. Allah ta'ala knows best.
Sidi AQ, I generally agree with your sentiments. Sayyid Habib Ali al Jifri is a beautiful sayyid though. I read somewhere on the net that a lot of scholars say that he resembles physically the Blessed Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم more than anyone else in this time (and why not since he is his grandson paternally and maternally!)
This is the effect impostors like nazim al-qubrusi and hisham kabbani and their juniors have on people. For long these impostors have been parading the idea of "mehdi is here, we've spiritually met him" and gullible people have been falling for it. And them and a bunch of other impostors have been piggybacking on the names of the few good men like the Habaib and some other scholars of Shaam trying to boost their credibility. PS. I respect greatly the blessed Habaib and this is not a rant against them. If someone doesn't know his direction of respect for the Habib, Ali Jifry, it's not his fault.
Imam Mahdi alayhi salam will be a mujtahid mutlaq. I'am shocked people are even entertaining these weird questions. One thing is for sure, Imam Mahdi will NOT be on any government schemes like RMW or 'Common Word'.
:s1: An interesting discussion on here: http://www.wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=12272 Someone asked this question to Shaykh GF Haddad and this was his reply: http://www.eshaykh.com/doctrine/habib-ali-jiffri-imam-al-mahdi/ my own view is that I do not think so as the hadiths say that the name of Imam Mahdi :as: will be Muhammad, his father's name will be Abdullah. Still, an interesting discussion and I do have a lot of love and respect for him. I believe he is a wali of Allah no doubt and a sayyid too so doubly worthy of our respect. I do think that if we restored the Caliphate he would be an ideal candidate! There IS something about his face which makes one to keep on looking at him and listening to him (even if one like me doesnt understand Arabic) May Allah protect all Sunni ulama, saadaat e kiraam and awliya. ameen.
