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  1. ThaqibTatari

    ThaqibTatari New Member

    :s1:

    The history of Sunni Islamic Learning in Kerala is very old. The Muslims of Kerala in the Middle East are still overwhelmingly Sunni, following the Shafi'i Mazhab.

    It is only a few open mouths that have become wahabified by Da'wa wa Irshad, Jam'iatul Islah or the Tableegi Jamat and they seem to domintate being active , but NO!!

    For those"completely" unaware of religion, this trend is in every Sunni Muslim society not exclusive to Kerala.
     
  2. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    salam,

    this is all very surprising about kerala. I only knew that either kerala people in Middle East were wahabis or completely unware of religion, but Alhamdulillah, now I see that Kerala is even better and ahead of other states in the sub-continent in Islamic sciences, wa alhamdulillahi 'ala dhalik. May Allah subh'ano wa Ta'ala give more barakah in this land and bestow them with more great ulama.

    wassalam.
    sag-e-noori.
     
  3. jamsheed

    jamsheed New Member

    Assalam `alaikum,

    Shaikh Ahmed Koya Shaliyatham was the disciple (Murid) of Ala hadrath, who founded the Jamiatul Ulema in Kerala. Koya means ghulam. His mazaar is in Shaliyathum near Calicut. His disciples are the teachers of Sh. Abubakr musliyar. (musliyar = maulana), the reactor of Ash Shaghafathus Sunniya in Calicut. There are more than 8000 students studying in this institute. Faizan-e-Rida, Zindabad!

    Today one of the prerequisite of scholarship in Kerala is that the student should be well versed in Arabic. For those who don’t know, unlike Urdu, Malyalam the local Kerala language is too distant in script and speech from Arabic.
     
  4. ibn Hassan

    ibn Hassan Guest

  5. :s1:

    sidi haroon,

    thanks for the link (and the email!); masha Allah this institute seems splendid--it brings a smile to my face to see such organisations being run by sunnis; subhan Allah it seems the Ba Alawis , wherever they are in the world, are doing so much!

    We need to promote such institutions a lot more...:)

    Seems like a great place to go and study ...
     
  6. harun

    harun Active Member

    Assalam u Alaikum

    Sidi Abu Hasan wrote

    “personally, i know of shaykh abdul qadir musaliyar who is in his seventies and a great [shafiyi] scholar. he knows many languages apart from his own - and has written in arabic. infact, the first expose of the tablighi jam'at was written by him. i have been honored to have met him a few times and was greatly impressed by this man. he is simple and humble. he is the principal of a very big arabic college in kasargod, kerala - jamiah sa'adiyah. it is a huge complex and it has one of the largest library of islamic books in the south.”

    http://www.sa-adiya.org/index.htm
    http://www.sa-adiya.org/jsa/

    Biography and publications of Shaykh Abdul Khadir http://www.sa-adiya.org/ma/index.html.

    The President of the Institution Sayyid Abdul Rahiman Al-Bukhari http://www.sa-adiya.org/jsa/page4.html , more pictures with Sayyidi Habib Ali al Jiffri http://www.alhabibali.com/news/news_17.asp

    Wassalam
     
  7. harun

    harun Active Member

    Jazakallah for that brother. I posted an interview of Mufti Muneeb ur Rahman of Jamia Naeemia Karachi and didn't know anything about the webmaster of the site the interview is on.
     
  8. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    salam,

    brother Haroon you have mentioned http://www.alrehman-alrahim.com, I would suggest to stay away from this site. their so called scholar babar chodhri is an aberrant guy and a suspect qadyani, even if he is not, he is not a scholar, he rejects hadeeth and do tafseer from his own understanding.
     
  9. :s1:

    brother abu hasan, do tell us more about muslims from south india as we in pakistan and the UK's pakistani diaspora only tend to hear of those in northern parts of india where urdu is the main language especially UP. about the south we don't have a clue!
     
  10. harun

    harun Active Member

  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    ...and what about the shafiyi shuyukh of the far-south or kerala in particular?

    in an age when wahabism spreading like plague, they were relatively untouched. we find this malady in kerala only after the gulf markets opened and the malabari diaspora returned with the new ideology. even those were mild wahabis - they only objected to mawlid and visiting graves.

    inshaAllah, we must get a list of these noble shuyukh, a great many of them from the ba'alawi tariqah.

    personally, i know of shaykh abdul qadir musaliyar who is in his seventies and a great [shafiyi] scholar. he knows many languages apart from his own - and has written in arabic. infact, the first expose of the tablighi jam'at was written by him. i have been honored to have met him a few times and was greatly impressed by this man. he is simple and humble. he is the principal of a very big arabic college in kasargod, kerala - jamiah sa'adiyah. it is a huge complex and it has one of the largest library of islamic books in the south.

    we were ushered into his room and it was an exemplary sufi abode. everything there was on necessity - the plainly furnished room and a simple bed; a few books on an ordinary table. we spoke to him for a while and the shaykh was exceedingly self-effacing.

    may Allah make us benefit from his beloved ones.
     
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  12. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    this is what i have been saying for a while
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    what happened to the legacy of farngi mahal and the nizamiyya tradition of the south ? completely absent. just to give a measure to people who dont have insight into the rank of these scholars, if one looks at the number of scholars shaykh muhammad al-alawi rahimahulah or shaykh abdul fattah abu-ghudah studied from, you will see the names of major scholars of the jamia and south.

    Shaykh al-Islam Fazilat Jung al-Imam al-Kabir Mawlana Anwaar ullah Faruqi rahimahullah
    Muhadith al-Deccan Shaykh al-Allamah Abul Hasanaat Abdullah Shah Naqshbandi-Qadri rahimahullah.
    Mawlana Sayyid Mahmud Shah al-Qadri al-Hanafi al-m`aroof ba Abul Wafa al-Afghani rahimahullah.
    Shams ul Mufassireen Allamah Abdul Qadeer Siddiqi rahimahullah
    Shaykh Abd-al-Mu‘id Khan Hyderabadi rahimahullah of the Da irat a-Ma arif al-Nizamiyya
    Shaykh-ul Shuyukh Raees-ul-Mufassireen Allamah Shah Tahir Rizwi al-Qadiri rahimahullah
    Jalalatul Ilm Hazrath Syed Mohammad Habibullah Quadri al-m`aroof ba Rasheed Pasha Quadri rahimahullah

    and many more.
     
  13. :s1:

    yes we should, if we can.

    i personally can only think of three sunni scholars post-ala hazrat who have produced written works of note--but i am an ignoramus:

    hazrat mufti naeem ud din muradabadi -- tafsir (long and short)
    hazrat mufti ahmad yar khan na'eemi --tafsir and jaa al haqq and shan habibur rahman
    hazrat pir muhammad karam shah sahib al azhari -zia al nabi and zia al qur'an [tafsir]
     
  14. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    after reading shaykh gibril's article mentioned elsewhere on this forum, i realized the magnitude of our inaction. not one other sunni scholar is present in that list though mediocre deobandis are all present. which shows how good they are at marketing.

    shabbeer usmani was beaten in debates and confounded by our scholars.

    let shaykh gibril find any one of them who has a candid admission on the thorough pugnacity of ismayil dahalwi's tafwiyatu'l iman. i have never seen any deobandi criticizing it. after all according to rashid, 'to read it and keep it on one's person is iman itself' [parhna rakhna ayn iman hai]

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    shall we not compile a list of sunni scholars with brief bios and some of their works?
     

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