junaid jamshed

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    jazak Allah khayr Muhammal Ali

    i was hunting for a video of Shah Sab addressing the nonsense of tariq jameel.

    he has really smashed a shoe on the face of tablighi jamat and tariq jameel in that video. may Allah preserve him for the Ahlus Sunnah. he is a lion of the Sunnis. i wish he spoke english and could hammer the common word team in the same way!

    that is a very pertinent point he mentioned. i got it on whatsapp as jpeg, forgot to upload it on pc. if tariq jameel had any shame - sharam se chullu bhar pani mein doob marta manhoos - his entire jamat says that in his "sohbat" johnny jamshed and veena malik changed. yet the khubathaa say the Prophet's "sohbat" (same word used in both cases) can't change a woman!

    perhaps jamshed was just trying to make the point that women have inherent feminine qualities that can't make them think like men do, but he employed a very satanic manner to express it.

    next stop, Shah Sahab - dajjal tahir.
     
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  2. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    Shaykh Sayyid Muzaffar Hussain Shah Sahib on Tariq Jameel Insults:

     
  3. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    SURE, they MUST.

    dushman e Ahmed pe shiddat keejiye,
    mulhidoN ki kia murawwat keejiye?
     
  4. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    tonight Ummah channel will be holding a discussion.

    Your host for the evening will be Shafik Budally with a panel of Ulemah which will include imam asam husain, Mawlana Nabeel Afzal, Hafiz Naveed Ashrafi amongst other. I suggest 'banday' ring in and cause some 'rollay'.
     
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  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    but why aren't ulama cornering tariq jameel himself? tariq jameel has said in a video:"koyi hum se kahe hidayat laO to nabi nahiN la saktey tariq jameel kya layega"

     
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  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

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  7. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    tariq jamil is still going on about the funeral of abdullah ibn ubayy... what a hypocrite and jahil

     
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  8. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it was a bad move for JJ to release this statement. silence would have been a better response.

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    nevertheless, that was one of my contentions. forget JJ and his tawbah.

    in the future (we live in the age of media) if anyone commits a mistake, doing tawbah publicly is not only bitter, but fraught with facing an inconsolable crowd - tawbah is now dependent on public acceptance. instead of encouraging people to be candid and admit mistakes, those who do not 'accept' JJ's tawbah indicate (passively) that it can be a living nightmare.

    may Allah ta'ala protect us from saying and doing things that displease Him. and keep the veil upon our darkened deed-books.

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    jinnah's tawbah is widely cited though he was an ismayili shiah. and that is enough for many of them.

    alahazrat was willing to withhold his tongue upon ismayil dihlawi, upon a rumour that he had made tawbah. but in our day, the tawbah of a person who expressly goes online is unaccepted. as i said, it is not our business to decide whether his tawbah is accepted - we should acknowledge that in this case, he withdrew and carry on. (his being deo and other issues remain. but repeating this case ad nauseum makes you vulnerable too).

    sub'HanAllah.
    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
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  9. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    what i have seen is that shiites do not insult the suhbat of the Prophet salAllaho alaihi wa sallam directly. They would raise it in maqam in fact, but put the blame on Hazrat Aisha raDyAllahu anha or rejecting it

    jj has insulted the suhbat of the Prophet salAllaho alaihi wa sallam directly in a very bad manner with laughs and jokes against women. Even shiites wouldnt do that.
     
  10. AbdalQadir

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  11. AbdalQadir

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    so it was all showbiz and politics. if at all he was genuine and duped by dajjal tariq jameel (which he was), he wouldn't have made such a pathetic statement. sending it out through binnoria in a tongue in cheek way, apologizing for deobandis, is just sticking a finger out to the Sunnis. it's understandable they have issues with "Barelvis" and they've been on his case and can't stand them, but at least if he issued a "neutral" comment just as junaid jamshed, a Muslim aam admi, it could have been digestible. he has proven that blind groupieism is what his "maslak" stands for.

    he talks as if he did anyone else a favor by donning the topi and the beard! what's he telling the rest of the world if he was better as a miraasi or now or whenever, it's his own akhirah he's working for. we all go to our graves alone!

    though he does have a valid point and i was afraid it will come back to bite the (pakistani) Sunnis. whatever 3udhr they might have had for his allegations, his point regarding sticking ONLY to his case like a postage stamp is valid. they have been mellow, either for valid 3udhr, or out of political & PR maneuvering, or out of sheer laziness - on a bunch of issues preceding this one!

    they never went so harsh on tariq jameel whose blasphemies are far worse (they should have nipped this fitnah in the bud, plus he's a deobandi, so what on earth were they waiting for, at least in his case?);

    they (pakistani Sunnis) were adamantly reluctant to issue a fatwa against dajjal tahirul padri after he openly started blaspheming, donning christian priests' caps, calling them believers, calling hindus to chant "hare krishna", holding "mawlid's" in temples, etc. (they were harder on him in the days he came up with his "ijtihad" on diyyat); they hate him and know him for what he is - so why not boot him out officially lest the deos come back taunting us about tahir.

    i don't know what possesses a lot of "Sunnis" to love this shia-loving actor aamir liquath; fair's fair. there's really no reason for any Sunni / "Barelvi" scholar to be cozying up with this pretender! yes, he pretends to be Sunni, but he has given plenty of indications to his jahalat and also rafidi leanings. he first insulted the Shaykhayn radi Allahu 3anhumaa at a shia gathering and exposed himself as a rafidi. apparently he did tawba and became Sunni thereafter. ok but what about after that when he made disgusting insinuations at Ameer Mu3awiya radi Ahhalu 3anhu in Muharram speeches? apparently he did tawba again and apologized. ok perhaps it was sincere. but shouldn't Sunni ulema be careful of such a guy?

    it was only a matter of time before it would come to bite the pakistani Sunnis back - but why have they been mellow in the case of "shia-Sunni bhai bhai" naara popularized by tahir and amir liaquath and others?!

    they have been a soft on the shias for a long time now. this was bound to come out from the deobandi side. why didn't they stage a sit in in this very Muharram, when the rafidi la3een taleb johri (a close friend/relative of aamir liaquath) openly said that every sahabi other than Mawla Ali radi Allahu 3anhu was a munafiq and a coward? (wal 3eyadhu billah)

    i don't love the deos but it's a fair point that why have our pakistani Sunni ulema become passive on the shias?
     
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  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    just got this. the hand of jamia binnoria (deos) is still on his head, this is apparently released by binnoria's media team

    jjbayan.jpg
     
  13. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    agreed and the same even applies to our Sunni ulema. Maybe it's the best they can do in the political climate - flex their muscles at a jahil gawaiyya. Where were the protests and fir's against jameel?

    as for jj, I've been thinking about it and if his tawba is sincere, he'd dissociate from the jamat and deobandis. Its known by near tawatur in our times that jameel's his teacher and mentor and that jj's the mascot ND poster boy for their jamat. Now that tariq jameel ND the jamaat have so ruthlessly dropped him like a hot cake, this major backstabbing can't not open his eyes if at all he was innocently unaware of their two faces. He may not become Sunni if his luck is bad, but if he doesn't dissociate from tableeghi jamaat ND tariq jameel, it'll only prove that they're all in in together and that the tawba was a sham.

    if jj was sincere in leaving his career in music to become more religious and was genuinely used by the deos, now he will either move to Sunniyat, or wahabiyat, or if he's really unlucky, to tahiriyat (going by the law of averages). If he sticks to deos, it's all just showbiz.
     
  14. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    they should be boycotted: for one is upon the religion of one's friends.

    it seems JAK does not have its own; a mixed bag - which is famously known as Sulh Kulli
     
  15. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it is not. because to be fair, JJ did not intend to insult sayyidah ayeshah raDiyallahu anhu. it was a consequence of lack of adab in the devbandi culture.

    tariq jameel's blasphemies are worse, but i guess JJ was sacrificed to save the image of their jamaat.
     
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  16. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    junaid jamshed's wife name is Ayesha. an irony isn't it?
     
  17. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Challo that's one deviant they've dropped.

    But will they also stop inviting other deviants to their platform like Hakeem Murad (thanvi praiser), Ninnowy (Tafzili), Ahmed Tijani (considers qadiyani's of Gana as muslim)

    JAK have a history of hobnobbing with deviants rather than refuting them... in my view JAK should be boycotted itself until it changes its ways
     
  18. Harris786

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  19. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    He should not be allowed on Ary Qtv, no touba video came out before the Sunni Scholars went out and protested. Don't understand how he gives Dars E Quran when he claims he hasn't studied anything, such homemade Scholars should be banned.

    Another one like him or worse is Bilal Qutab, a shia who cannot even recite the Kalmah correct or Surah Faatiah. Last year in Ramadan he was promoting mutta and has also insulted many Sahaba on TV.
     
  20. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    this is why a jahil shouldn't be given the microphone!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30317436

    the God-damned kafir media can and will throw its own spin on things.

    by jj's own admission, he didn't "describe" anything. he misquoted a hadith with very generous fictitious insertions. the way the article says it, it makes it look like he was "describing" an accurate event!
     

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