was mujaddid alfi thani not a mujaddid? he called those people jahil who deny the superiority of siddiq e akbar radiyAllahu ta'ala anhu. did he not know what some 'mufakkir' of the 21st century claims to? you people are making ta'wil of the alamgiri quote when it is clear. aF, you are wrong above because alamgiri clearly says even if they don't abuse shaykhayn, they are still bid'ati for giving sayyidina ali radiyAllahu ta'ala anhu superiority. gg, i am not going to discuss the difference between the fuqaha and mutakallimin, that is not the topic. i am just asking about the alamgiri quote and where does it specify khilafat? if it doesn't, then why are you twisting it when it is clear? --- i am going to leave it with the learned brothers now as i am not qualified to answer ALL your questions. i was only pointing out the alamgiri quote, which, if you are fair, calls tafzilis bid'atis.