Mufti Muneeb on saying Merry Christmas

Discussion in 'Hanafi Fiqh' started by Aqdas, Dec 26, 2018.

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

  2. FaqirHaider

    FaqirHaider Shajar-e-Sharjeel Shajar-e-Uthman

    We should also understand that wiki isn't the authoritative source, infact country to country , region to region, you hve individuals who celebrate Christmas without even any association with religion (japan, korea etc) where its merely a cultural fad, with the main idea being just the Birth of Esa (Alayhi Salam) which is worth commemorating without excess and complete imitation, and it is true when we do our (daily,weekly,monthly,yearly mawlids), we are celebrating the birth of All the Blessed Messengers and Prophets (alayhum al ridwan ). We have to be careful when ascribing shirk and kufr without first establishing the intent of the muslims who do say it, (as in are they saying according to the sunni belief of Nabi Esa according to the verse وَالسَّلَامُ عَلَيَّ يَوْمَ وُلِدْتُ وَيَوْمَ أَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ أُبْعَثُ حَيًّا 19:33 ﷽,﷽) which would merit no harm, or are they indeed adhering to the belief of the Christians as in a demigod or such atrocious beliefs, then the verdict is an obvious rejection of such a celebration or congratulation). The issue is mainly for the establishment of social relationship between muslims in a majority non muslim country;which is why I don't understand establishing such fatwas in major muslims countries (even though sadly you see christmas trees, lights, and colors in north african muslims countries these days , and probablt soon also in gulf countries in their malls). The issue is establishing integration of muslims in foreign lands while keeping assimilation purely in the cultural and tertiary subjects; this becomes really difficult when a group of individuals ("liberal muslims, and or american/british/euro islam advocates) starts shedding their principle identity, but effortlessly and without hesitance jump on the bandwagon of "this sullah kulli habit" of congratulating people without any clarification, my advice to people would be if you are to say merry christmas (to christian) be sure to say that "by that I mean the birth of a Messenger and Prophet of God, the God of Muhammad the Last and Seal of Prophets ﷺ, the vicegerents of Islam."
     
  3. ramiz.noorie

    ramiz.noorie Active Member

    What's happening with our scholars, every few days another Ali Jifri Ali Jumah Tahir ul Padri type comes out.
     
  4. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Even if we accept Mufti sahib's position, there is a thing called sadd al-dharayi.

    What will this lead to?
     
  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    I disagree. Our commemoration of the birth of Īsā عليه السلام is on 10th Muharram AND it's not called Christmas. So we wouldn't be wishing Merry Christmas.

    According to wiki, Christmas is derived from Christ's Mass.

    RasulAllah ﷺ commemorated Ashura but did he congratulate the Jews? Did he say we should do it on their day? Or did he say we should mark the day according to our calendar?
     

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