Muharram 2020. In honour of Imam Hussain alayhi's salam

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Hashmi miyan blasts tazyadari, just in case that guy's soul is still wandering here, or any other taqiyyabaz fools think Hashmi miyan is soft on rifd

     
  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Remember mourn like buffoons

    Sunnis ALWAYS REMEMBER the Sahaba, Ahle Bayt, and the martyrs

    rawafid MOURN in the name of love, but their so called love of Ahle Bayt is fake because they violate the Prophet's own commands in this so called love. The only thing these gustakh animals mourn is their own sorry states. (The command is that mourning is not to exceed three days, except for a woman on her husband's death in 3iddat)

    learn to use a dictionary and see the difference between "remember" and "mourn"

    Just to repeat the sheyr:

    Keh Do Gham-E- Hussain Manane Walon Ko;
    Momin Kabhi Shaheed Ka Matam Nahin Karte;
    Hai Ishq Apni Jaan Se Zyada Ahl-E-Rasool Se;
    Yun Sar-E-Aam Hum Unka Tamasha Nahin Karte;
    Royen Wo Jo Munkir Hain Shahadat-E HUSSAIN Ke;
    Hum Zinda-O-Javaid Ka Matam Nahi Karte!

    (read and weep, @AbuSulayman)
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    PS. Just bumped into this video. Don't know who this maulana saab is.
     
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  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.



    This maulana sahab is right about kaukab noorani's shameful silence.

    I remember sometime back in 2000's kaukab noorani visited somewhere out of Pakistan and he refused to share the stage with someone who refused to accept Sayyiduna Ameer Mu3awiyah radi Allahu 3anhu as sahabi.

    Fact of the matter is just about all, illaa ma sha Allah those Allah saved, these peerzadas and faux khateebs are in it only for the envelopes, wahwahi, food, and chamchas buzzing around them (shouldn't be called mureeds), just like the disco notekhwans. It's all "Islamic" showbiz.
     
  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it is exactly for this reason that i had to compile a selection of translations on this issue. the village idiot can only see a man jabbing a needle in a sick man's arm, he has no idea that the needle is not a 'weapon' nor is the man in the white coat 'a murderer'.
     
  5. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

    sorry the other post was meant for AH not AQ (the one starting with 'hoga, ')
     
  6. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

    @AQ, no one said its fard e ain but the question is why do you guys have a problem with someone who sends lanat on yazid paleed? why would you care if someone you allegedly hate is being cursed?
    i don't know how to quote bits of text i want to reply to.
    in the other thread about the fatwa by some barelvi scholar entitled 'are the killers of imam hussain kafirs' or something like that. if that isn't finding excuses for the killers of hussain including yazid maloon i dont know what is!
     
  7. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

    @AH
    hoga, magar that wasn't the point of the post. it was that senior shia clergy have openly declared doing tabarra haram so to blame all shias for tabarra is extremism. btw apart from kafir kafir fulaan kafir, do you so called barelwis do anything constructive?

    @Tariq,
    honestly, i think it is inadequate and its because many who would like to do it are too scared of being labelled shia by nasibis within our ranks. this forum is a good example of it! jalali and his supporters are a manifestation. when is the last time a sunni mosque in the uk was named after a member of aal muhammad for example? (صلى الله عليه وسلم). listen to our elders like syed shabbir hussain shah sahib of haifzabad on karbala or mawlana okarvi sahib or hazarvi sahib or pirs of golra sharif and then compare that to so called sunnis today who even object to using alayhisalam and sayyida e kainaat as honorifics!
     
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  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Can you point me to the post where unbeknown tried to find excuses for yazid?
     
  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    @AbuSulayman
    Don't write your responses inside the quotation boxes that are meant to contain the quotes of the guy you're replying to. Only rafidis cause confusion like that.

    Whether you mean me or nasibis in the guise of barelvis, who has said that sending lanat on yazid is a farze ayn and you must have a valid excuse to not do it?
     
  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    rang jhalak raha hai..

    khomeini was a kafir.
     
  11. Tariq Owaisi

    Tariq Owaisi Active Member

    Do you find Sunni remembrance of Ahul Bayt inadequate? I think it's pretty good all things considered
     
  12. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

    brother owaisi,
    i never said i agree with pulling hair or slapping cheeks.
     
  13. Tariq Owaisi

    Tariq Owaisi Active Member

    Never has Muhurram past without mention and dua for Shaheed of Karbala after prayers also events around this time of the year.
    I find that more than adequate. Also if you believe in Allaah, of course you do but if realisation of the reality of life and death has come to you - you will appreciate mourning is three days. Pulling your hair, slapping your cheeks is not allowed - hence if in control of oneself a person should not do it. You have to remember with dignity and there is no room for exaggeration because exaggeration is batil, everything is OK because taqdir is with Allaah whom you worship abundantly, right?
     
  14. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

    most shia muharram processions in pakistan pass off peacefully without any tabarra or issues. you cant blame all shias for the actions of some extremists who do tabarrra. many shia scholars like allam jawad naqvi sahib and ayatullah bashir najafi and imam khamaynai explicitly forbid tabarra' and say its haram. in the same way most sunni barelvis, deobandis and ahlul hadis love ahlul bayt and are not nasibis. its the extremists on both sides who cause trouble. in any case, my own view is police and government shouldn't get involved in taking sides in mullah fights except to the extent of providing security to make sure rallies and processions can be held peacefully.
     
  15. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

     
  16. AbuSulayman

    AbuSulayman Banned

    delete. posted twice.
     
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  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Hahaha. I remember that episode of the rafidi springer show.
     
  18. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Found it on YouTube (see the first 2 minutes). Today's mal3oon procession in khi



    So AS, is it nonsense to say their tabarra is real?

    Do you also send lanat on those who send lanat upon Sahaba? Yes or no.

    Will Irfan Shah and his troupe also register FIR against this rafidi pig?
     
  19. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    someone from Karachi said this. anyone knows any other details?

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    According to you it's nonsense to say their love is fake.

    Is it also nonsense to say their tabarra is real?

    Do you also weep a bucket when Sahaba are disparaged by people who supposedly love imam Husayn RADI ALLAHU 3ANHU?
     
  20. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Well-Known Member

    This misguided statement that Imam Hussain (RadiyAllahu Anhu) is the foundation of Islam was spread by PAQ of Walthamstow. We all know that PAQ had a habit of misrepresenting our previous scholar's statements by intermingling his own misguided thoughts in them.

    Someone needs to ask these rafzis whether the Quran came first or did Imam Hussein? Did Imam Aali Maqaam's mother, Khatoon-e-Jannat (RadiyAllahu Anha) recite the kalima before Imam Hussein was born or did she recite it after?

    I now have a fair idea who this troll is. He is one of the misguided people from PAQs group, most likely a disgruntled "Yanafi.com" senior user who has been hit very hard in the heart several years ago due to being refuted by brother Abu Hasan all these years ago. If you remember when PAQ had a son those years ago this very same group started addressing an "under a year" old kid as a "Peer". No wonder @AS has the intellectual capacity of a 1 year old (or a bit less) when one of his Peers is a kid!

    I think we ought to stop responding to this guy totally as whatever proofs we forward they will simply go on deaf ears. The guy is only here for mischief.

    Itne saalon pehle ka waar abh tak chub raha hai!!!
     
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