Naqsbandi Saifi's?

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  1. Ibn Amin

    Ibn Amin Active Member

    You can read the book 'Tasawwuru husuli l-ihsani bi tawajjuhi Rasuli l-Anami, salla Llahu 'alayhi wa sallam'.
    It is in urdu with all references with takhrij and all hadith/quotes in arabic, 624 pages. Quotes from Fatawa Ridawiyyah are included in every chapter also. It includes taqariz from Mufti Sulayman Rizwi, Mufti Syed Ghulam Mustafa Aqeel Bukhari, Mufti Siddiq Hazarwi and Mufti Gul Ahmad Attiqi.

    http://nasiha.dk/da/1343-ihsan.html
     
  2. Rizzykhan

    Rizzykhan New Member

    Have read what you wrote and noted. Do you have any eplanation about the dhikr gatherings?
     
  3. Ibn Amin

    Ibn Amin Active Member

    As-salamu 'alaykum

    Saifi tariqah is fully in accordance with the shari'ah and sunnah, and what is happening in the dhikr gatherings likewise.
    And it is totally proven from Fatawa Ridawiyyah also.

    For details or verification you can contact Mufti Munib al-Rahman (Karachi), Allamah Hafiz 'Abdus-Sattar Sai'idi (Jami'a Nizamia Lahore), Allamah Sayyid Irfan Shah Sahib (UK) if you accept these people as being on the true path and I can mention a lot of names...)

    If a murid from a tariqah does any thing against shari'ah, it does not render the tariqah invalid. It is not the way, but those who travel on it who make it dirty. And such examples can you find in every tariqah, jami'ah or group.

    In Denmark Jami'ah Muhammadiyyah Saifiyyah is the Scandinavia's leading and only jami'ah of Ahl al-Sunnah where dars-e-nizami is taught, and recently Mufti Munib al-Rahman and Sahibzada Abdul-Mustafa Hazarwi was there to launch the first Dar al-Ifta of Scandinavia, Dar al-Ifta Muhammadiyyah Saifiyyah.




    Recently Pirzada Saqib Raza Mustafai was there, and Pir Saqib Shami, and many others. And you can check out there FB:
    https://www.facebook.com/pg/roedovremasjid/photos/?ref=page_internal
     
  4. Salaam. If one does this intending ecstasy in and of itself in the first place such that his setting off from his abode is for that purpose then he should remain where he is and set his intention straight. He should be aware that the ego has many tricks and there are many subtleties, one of which is hidden lusts that become a barrier/veil. Only the adept are safe from these veils but not the common Muslim, nor the one who is travelling unless He is protected. If it is ecstasy you seek then it is not induced by force but obtained through immersion in the Ocean and great work/Mujahada otherwise we say it becomes a lust and the one travelling should be cautioned from this.

    We Seek Allah's Pleasure and Protection.
     
  5. FaqirHaider

    FaqirHaider اللَه المقدر والعالم شؤون لا تكثر لهمك ما قدر يكون

    This tariqah is quite legitimate, the reason why some people are more prone to wajd is matter to explain some other time. Ive been meeting with a saifi brother, and he is helping people with their lataif, and is very sunni, he is warning and trying to get the dev naqshs and dev chistis back on saheeh ul aqeedah.
     
  6. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member

    My friend once asked a Scholar and Mufti from Pakistan, who resided near some of the Saifi Shayukh and Ullama, about the Tariqah. He had good words to say about them and alluded that the Tariqah was perfectly legitimate.
     
  7. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    I am not aware of this particular Tariq myself but it's flawed logic from your trustworthy brother that he or for that matter any salik receives what he wishes for and gets it when he wishes. What if he is so clouded that he cannot transmit? :) ever considered that? Just pointing out the other side just because it seems we (including you) don't seem to have enough information.
     
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  8. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

  9. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    I know a trustworthy brother from Bradford who told me of his experience after he had travelled to one of their gatherings in Oldham, he specifically went to see what all this electric shock drama is all about.

    The short version of his experience was, he sat through the gathering and then went to shake hands with head honcho who was zapping the followers as they were shaking hands with him and then they'd go into their wajd drama mode. As he shoock hands with the head honcho nothing electrifying happened to him, the head honcho noticed that this guy wasn't playing up like the rest and then he proceeded to question him as to who he was, where he had come from and exactly why he was there etc...

    I personally wouldn't go anywhere near them myself after seeing the videos and also knowing what happened when my friend went... I doubt you'll find anybody on here who can offer up a valid explanation for their antics. My advice is avoid all that seems doubtful to you and be rewarded for acting upon the hadith of the Messenger (SallAllah Alayhi Walihi WaSabihi Wasallam)
     
  10. Rizzykhan

    Rizzykhan New Member

    Asalaam U Alaikum,

    Does anyone have any knowledge or understanding on the Naqsbandi Saifi's silsila?
    I have been to their gathering a while back via invitation from one of their mureeds and seen the videos on Youtube.
    How is it explained? the dhikr they do and the state of Wajd that they go through (looking like electricity is going through them) don't mean that in a bad way just the only way I can explain.

    Is it an authentic silsila and what happens in their gatherings is that accepted in Sharia?
     

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