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Discussion in 'General Topics' started by AbdalQadir, Jan 10, 2018.
Hussain (radi Allahu 3anhu) day 2017
agnivesh speech -
obaidullah speech -
maHabbat thi chaman se lekin ab yeh bey-dimaghi hai
ke mauj e buu e gul se naak meiN aata hai dam meraa
The khateeb-ul-Hind could well speak about the simple wedding ceremony of "Imaam ul Hind" - "ram" with "seeta".
Names of the speakers:
1. Khateeb ul Hind, Hazrat Mawlana Obaidullah Khan Azmi, former M.P
2. Muballigh e Islam, Hazrat Mawlana Muhammad Irfan Qasmi, Muballigh Dar ul Uloom Deoband
3. Fadilat ush Shaykh, Khalid Jameel Makki, Jami' ut Tawheed, Bhiwandi (wahhabi)
Zer e Himayat:
1. Hazrat Mawlana Mufti Ziya ur Rahman Qasmi
2. Hazrat Mawlana Saif ur Rahaman Salafi
organised by 'Ittihad' Foundation
a very important meeting, need to set aside all differences of creed because it is such a pressing issue, hindus have united against muslims and its now or never.
So obaidullah azmi, the veteran champion of Islam, is organizing a 'function' to speak against ... well ... against extravagant wedding parties...
ok, so let's talk about obaid's other issues (that concern his public life and influence) here and if need be, send istifta to muftis on other issues.
personally, i'm more interested in issues of 3aqaid and perennialism, even more than fiqh issues of sinfulness (issues like drinking, or involvement with women, etc.) or his lambasting Sunni ulema (something the Sunni ulema themselves have done plenty against each other)
what i'm hoping to achieve by this thread is see how obaid compares to tahir (in ideology, not fan following) as personally i see tahir as a benchmark of misguidance, deviance, and perennialist filth (along with the top members of the common word team)
please just link his audios, videos, books, articles, speeches etc. that you think have a problem.
you misunderstood me.
I mentioned his shola-baazi against sunni scholars because the mustafti himself began his question by lamenting what he thinks is the 'sad state of affairs where sunni ulema are taking shots at one another instead of refuting the gumrah'. To prove his point he mentioned the cases of sdi, di, mawlana yasin akhtar, allamh zia-ul-mustafa and then finally ubaidullah azmi.
That was a well crafted piece. First try to earn some sympathy and prove yourself to be a genuine well-wisher of sunnis then dove-tail to your real character.
why did he not mention that azmi regularly lambasts sunni ulema in his despicable speeches, sometimes straight and sometimes snide. He even went so far as to say that "if xyz alim's is suffering from abc disability then I wonder how he cleans himself"!
that's the mark of a filthy, distorted mind. He has taken pot-shots at Allamah Zia-ul-Mustafa Sahib (hafidhahullah) right in front of him when he was sitting on the stage in ashrafiya.
this is not sectarianism? why did the mustafti choose to ignore this and give an impression as if azmi is an innocent sheep being attacked by wolves from all sides?
speaks a lot about the mustafti.....
in post # 383 of the main obaidullah thread, brother unbeknown said:
let's not conflate issues.
a fatwa will only address the istifta presented, and not the rest of obaid's life history.
you can't tie up everything obaid ever did or said to that one fatwa on the specific incident, or its various endorsements, refutations, counter refutations etc. - all addressing the same issue of that specific incident and the fiqh rulings concerning it.
if there are other issues of iman and kufr or halal and haram outside of that morari bapu's katha, they need to be addressed separately and individually.
and if a fatwa is required on those other matters, a new istifta should be sent to the concerned muftis asking for a fatwa on that particular issue. (example from tahir's bio - wembley event a separate issue for a separate istifta, calling christians believers another issue, wearing a pope's crown another issue, etc.)
i suggest those who know more about obaid build up this thread on his various different antics (like how we have done for tahir on this forum)
this way we can all develop an overall character sketch of obaidullah, and see how he compares to tahir or other perennialists.
please post here ANY content relating to ubk that you think is a violation of Shari3ah or Sunni 3aqidah.
and let us see what other issues he has that we can possibly seek fatawa on.
first issue unbeknown raised - implicit takfeer of 100 muftis at the Urse Hafize Millat
i think someone also mentioned him asking hindus to read vedas and act on them
(please link audio/video/book again if you can)
others post other issues....