Plight of Muslims in India

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  1. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Forget Indian Muslims. Remember the Dalits. Dont be fooled by the so called reservation systems that the Dalits and other so called 'backward castes' [in the pathetic Indian Hindu government definitions] are made to dance on the tune of. In panchmahal, the Dalits were promised if they would rape Muhammadan women and burn alive Muhammadan children, they would get lots of liqour and lots of free land.

    This is India. No where else in the world such things exist. Its only in India. Not far away from Araria, before even Jinnah carved out Pakistan, with the help of gandhi and nehru, is the district of Bhagalpur.

    Type Muslim pogrom in Bhagalpur, and internet, even though extremely unreliable, will enlighten you about Bihar.
     
  2. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    How did you know Government is impartial?How can you put the blame upon Muslims , please support this statement?Muslims are not threatened, they do not love this life , that is when injustice is done upon Muslims, they do not sit back , they are not scared about the large Police force which is always against Muslims [ Incidence of Bhagalpur in Bihar, Jabalpur in MP and Godhra are prime example of how Muslims are targeted by Indian Police]
    If we as a community are far from Islam, then we need to spread the Islamic teachings and that does not mean we give up our right. No one ever said that we don't have to be "thankful" to Allah. Neither does it mean, first we will make the entire Indian Muslims as 'thankful" and then we will start talking about the Injustice done by Hindus upon Muslims.

    How?

    Muslims are less than 0.003% in Indian Armed forces?[Controlled by Govt]
    Muslims are deprived Job just because of their being Muslims. This phenomenon is spreading across the globe[ Latest ILO report]
    Muslims localities are not developed[ controlled directly by Govt]

    Insha Allah we will see how Govt is responsible for this,once we get the evidence for your quote namely "the larger portion of blame is upon muslims."
     
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    more ignorance. the south was more or less ruled by southern kings - even tipu sultan (that rare exception the average pakistani 'admires') was also swarthy.

    'we' - who?
     
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  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    why ask anyone, brother, when you can tell.

    sub'HanAllah, how did you come to know this?

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    in spite of government impartiality, the larger portion of blame is upon muslims. why should we think that any power can threaten us or snatch something from us or deprive us?

    we are muslims. and we should fear and hope only from Allah ta'ala. we must do sabr; we must do shukr. we as a community are far from islam; and as a community trample upon others' rights; yet, we expect kafirs to give us our rights.

    do we not have faith in the Promise of Allah ta'aala? "if you are thankful, *I* shall increase my bounties."

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    actually, that is a western prejudice that has seeped into NJ and makes him spew the racist bilge. i don't think NJ would dare say about jamaican/trinidadian atheist/christians in the UK: 'negro jamaicans whose looks improved after coming to the UK' [because kaalay is not simply used as black, but as a pejorative]

    so then, how are fair-skinned anti-muslim hindus better than black-skinned ones? why can't we keep skin color out of the discussion and what does it add anyway? is it acceptable to be pogromm'd by modi under the auspices of advani (who is light skinned and for NJ's satisfaction fulfils the criterion of both pakistani/north-indian). i hope you are not reading christoph meiners.

    full disclosure: i am from south india.

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    question: how many south indians have you met? and please write down the number of muslims and non-muslims among them.

    i don't see how the same description does not fit muslims from south india? it is quite amusing and a telling remark on the ignorance of some people. as if pakistanis don't use heeng in their food; and as if pakistani-punjabi food is palatable to everybody. or as if, every morning, south indians rub heeng powder on their clothes.

    interestingly, it is the light-skinned-aryan-descent-high-caste folk in south india who are leaders of hindutva. and muslim-hate was brought down south by the light-skinned hindutva proponents from the north - as the south was generally (and still is) more progressive than the rest of the country.

    i am curious to know how you arrived at this conclusion. because you seem to be into scientific racism, did you know that south-indians have aquiline noses and do not properly fit into the various categories made up by race scholars?

    would you also find it as annoying if a white skinned person with blue-eyes nodded his head in that fashion? like the bulgarians for example...

    grow up NJ.
     
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  5. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    You are 100% correct brother. Insha Allah I plan to post many links in this thread about this historical fact and why the Brahmins ( top caste in Hindusim)is denying this and also many links to books.

    You might like to read this
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romila_Thapar

    Please read this ( A must)

    http://www.friendsofsouthasia.org/textbook/NCERT_Delhi_Historians__Group.pdf

    How Hindus are fabricating historical Facts, the next generation of Hindus will be more extremist and next generation of Muslims will be less intellectual because of the poor literacy rate of India Muslims.

    As a result Muslims can't refute even the lies. So we have to work hard and bring the facts to light.
     
  6. i'm sorry sidi suleyman but it is true. those skinny kaalay south indian, heeng-smelling, sambar-and-idli- eating, sideways-head-rolling, vegan, disgraceful, hindus have a massive inferiority complex for being dark and ugly compared to both the fairer north indians and pakistanis especially.

    joke:
    i had a muslim friend, a surgeon, called ali from south india, and he was a nice guy buy even he wagged his head from side-to-side when he meant to say, "yes!" heck it was so confusing :)
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    seriously, they should be glad we ruled them for so long. it improved their looks. if you read the Baburnama, Mughal Badshah Babur complained how 'ugly and dirty' the natives were. Thankfully his descendents and he helped to civilise them which is why those hindood bjp wallas call muslims, 'Babur ki aulad!' :D
     
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  7. if any dravidian south indian are muslims they are my beautiful muslim brothers but those who remain macacas and hindutva supporters as those nasty women in those photos remain, 'kaalay south indians'.

    actually the hindutva lot get really annoyed by the aryan invasion theory as it uproots their foul religious beliefs and myths. basically the invaders from iran/central asia were light skinned and more advanced and conquered the smaller, darker, natives ie. dravidians and imposed their beliefs on them. later these invaders became themselves mythologised in the whole mahabharata and other myths[ which are good literature for fun reading].
     
  8. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    The Prophet [ sal allahu alayhi wa sallam] said :

    http://www.livingislam.org/farew_e.html


    Note; The original Indians are south Indians and are called "dravidians". They are less hateful towards Muslims because of the similar eating habits and other customs.

    Many thousand years back the Aryans invaded North Indian and settled here. Off late, the extreme Hindus have started denying this historical fact of "Aryan Invasion" , but they have been refuted comprehensively by other Hindu academicians who have studied history.

    But now this dirty poison of harming Muslims has been spread to South India as well.
     
  9. While I sympathize which much if not all of what is being discussed on this thread in relation to the crimes being committed against us, I have to say that "those kaalay south indians" is going a bit overboard. . .
     
  10. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    BJP,the right wing hindu extremist party in India has not yet decided who will be their prime ministerial candidate in the next elections. This man, Narendra Modi,has been denied entry to USA because of his orders in which he asked policemen to be quiet and mute spectator when the Hindu mob kills and burns Muslims. The link in my previous post says it all.

    Modi is the Chief Minister of the Indian state of Gujarat, which is called 'Hindu Laboratory". Every Plan to harm Muslims is first implemented in this state. This Indian State has the most extremist Hindus. Hence their is always a polarization of Votes and Narendra Modi is in power for 15 years !

    Narendra Modi took up a drama of 'fasting" for three days for peace! During these three days many Khoja Shias came to meet him, they hugged him, some of them even bent down and touched his feet( every thing is published with photographs). The shias also shouted 'Allahu Akabar" and Modi hugged all of these Khoja shias.

    Please note: Khoja shias are are sect with in shias and the Ithan Asharia shais ( the twelevers) criticized the Khoja shias for this act.

    Now read this interesting development.

    Next day, RSS ( mother party of all right wing hindu extremist group) criticized Narendra Modi for showing too much support and appeasement to Muslims ( Shias)

    Read this

    That criticism came yesterday

    Now see the effect of that criticism from RSS
    You would be surprised to know what happened today!!

    Today some Muslim with the name"Syed Imam" went with a "tarditional Muslim cap" [which Muslims use to cover their head] and wanted to put this cap on Narendra Modi's head! Narendra Modi did not agree and totally refused to wear a cap offered by a Muslim!!

    Narendra Modi could not answer as to why he accepted the turban and clothes given by Hindus and declined a cap offered by a Muslim!

    He was exposed ! [May be he was pleasing his bosses in RSS]


    Guess who came to the rescue of Narendra Modi, the mass murderer ?

    Answer = A shia !!!

    A shia politician whose name is Shahnawaz Hussein , and who belongs to the same party to which Narendra Modi!! He said" A cap is worn for ibadah( worshipping) and not for siasat ( politics) that is why Modi declined the cap!!


    With this funny answer and blind support to the killers of Innocent Muslim,the Shia politcian has once again proved his loyalty to his Hindu masters!
     
  11. sunnistudent
    thanks for that link if i can really say thanks for viewing such disgusting images. i am on fire right now with righteous anger. seeing those pictures made me sick to the bone. innocent muslims burnt to death, crying, cowering, heads crushed, by those naa-paak piss drinkers. makes me sick to the bone. then some of our indian brothers gloss over it by saying, 'things aren't so bad; they're worse in pakistan'.

    i HATE wahabis and kharijis with a passion as u all know but they are much better than those bloody hindutva m!£^&**!!!rs!! no one in pakistan has been burnt to death by hindus. and no minorities have ever faced a pogrom like this either. never. and that picture of those nasty hindu "women" with their tridents and black, ugly, dalit features, clad in saffron robes near dead muslims in india. those nasty hoes are too nasty even to run trains on them.
    we will let our horses do that. alhamdulilllah pakistani women are beautiful.
    (those kaalay south indians should be glad that in the past 1000 years we improved their looks by genetic mingling of our superior afghan/turkish/arab/punjabi//aryan gene pool! :D)


    btw, i was browsing thru' this forum in another thread and someone mentioned some indian sunni mullah who said that if pakistan took an inch of indian land he would be the first to fight the pakistanis...i wonder how much he got paid to say that?!

    actually, i feel sorry for my sunni indian brethren because they always have to prove they are more catholic than the pope and the best way to do it is making anti-pakistan comments.

    i actually think most of them would welcome the pakistani army with open arms if that day ever comes insha Allah. :)
     
  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Sunnistudent akhi, what do you think about this latest fasting charade by that shaytan modi?

    What is the sentiment of Muslim indian/gujratis for him?

    as per ndtv, some people are saying that there are some Muslims supporting him/bjp now?
     
  13. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

  14. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

  15. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    A kind request to all the forum members:

    1)Please post all news article related with Indian Muslims in this thread.

    2)If possible every Muslim, irrespective his Nationality should read this, as it might be useful.
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    3 June 2011
    Forbesganj, Bihar, India

    All the bullets were fired above the waist ,ensuring there is no chance of survival. As per government rules ( on paper) the shots must be fired below the waist, so that the chances of death is minimum.

    http://onefreeworld.co.cc/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37&sid=8ca28649d1f9818999f3716a0251e890


    15 Sep

    For details
    http://onefreeworld.co.cc/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37&sid=8ca28649d1f9818999f3716a0251e890&start=30
     

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