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Discussion in 'Poetry' started by SuleimanalMuslim, Jun 29, 2009.
So, Sidi Muhammadi, have you obtained the opinion of the Shahsaab?
i could be mistaken. after all, i am just a beginner.
but do you think there is no mistake in it? can you state it yourself or ask shah sahib whether there is a mistake or not?
your tone seems to suggest that there isn't any.
abu Hasan, when are you going to provide dalail for your mudda'a?
Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullah...
Masha Allah, Shaykh Gibril is a Deobandi now...
But seriously, why all the name-calling? Bring your proof that Sayyidi Shaykh Gibril is a Deobandi. Rather he does not ascribe himself to any subcontinental school as far as I know, he is a simple Sunni Ash'ari Shafi'i Naqshabandi...
masha Allah. It is a very courageous act indeed to accept one's error and fault and consequently apologise.
Coming back to the usuli issue, provide evidences for your claim of "grammatical errors" so that they can be presented for tasdiq or tardid.
you are welcome to correct them. at the outset, i do not deny that my 'writings' might have mistakes. let me remind you that i am just another ordinary man on the street.
i would be surprised if anybody did. the words 'beginner' and 'student' are written all over.
that issue is well-known and i apologized just to let things go. 'many a time' actually means 'one time'.
Again, show us some examples please so that we can present them to Mufakkir-e-Islam for tasdiq or tardid.
I have also resisted saying this but Shah Sahib has refuted you many a time in public after which you have been forced to apologise. Moreover, I too have felt that there are numerous mistakes in your writings, especially the "translated-from-Arabic" posts. So many people do not take your words without demur including myself.
So once again, please show us some of the "grammatical errors" instead of the probabilities.
I would like to see the quote from Fatawa Rizwia too.
I am far from being an expert like yourself so just asked if the grammar errors could be pointed out. I have heard some Naat Khwan read these verses in front of Ulama and they did not stop them from reciting it. I do not trust the deobandi sunnipath site anyway.
as i said it in my previous post, a couple of them look obvious, even to a mubtadi. i am sure senior people can find many more.
i have resisted saying this but i listened to a speech by shah sahib and i felt there were mistakes in it too. so i would not take shah sahib's tasdiq or tardid without demur.
update: the questioner in the link below says that this is mentioned in fatawa riDawiyyah. i am curious. can somebody help me where?
update2: if at all such a qaSidah was composed by the great, sajjad, raDiyallahu anhu, it is probably not in its original form. Allah ta'ala knows best.
Point out the "grammatical errors" you "felt" and we shall present them to Mufakkir-e-Islam for tasdiq or tardid.
i am a beginner-student in arabic and even i felt that there were grammatical errors in the poem. and such errors are usually made by ajamis.
now, which part of "is chock full of mistakes in grammar and prosody" did you not understand?
-----wa laysa yaSiHHu fi'l adh'hani shayyun
idha'Htaj an-naharu ilaa dalili
nothing can be proven to such minds,
which expect evidence that the sun shines in the day*
*literally: it is required to prove that 'it is day'
I would like to see proofs for GF Haddad's claims.
Assalaamu Alaykum ..
Yes brother it will be really great if u provide a link...
But I hav heard this QASEEDAH SHAREEF in a CD of SABRI BROTHERS famous QAWWALI entitled--"TAAJDAAR-E-HARAM"
MASLAK-E-SARKAAR A'ALA HAZRAT ZINDAABAAD
i think sh gibril wrote something on this. i think he said it was a forgery and there were errors in the arabic as well.
i am sure somebody can provide a link to it.
When something is in the praise of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him and his family) then the gustakh wahabi asks for a saheeh sanad. Shame on the wahabis and their ideologies. This is enough proof to show how evil they are.
sanad ki baat baad mein, tumhari khabasat sab kei samnei aagaye
Subhaan Allah Ayyaz Bhai.
MAY ALLAH AZZAWAJAL Bless you AND ALL SUNNI in Sadqah of HIS HBEEB SALLALLAHU ALAYHE WASALLAM
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
i got The famous Qasida by Imam Zainul Abiden Rahmatullahi 'alayh on ORKUT so i thaught To Share With U.
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Yaa Sayidee Irham lanaa
O'my Master, be merciful towards us
In nilta ya reehas sabaa yowman Ilaa aardil haram
Ballig salaami rowdatan feehan nabiyyul muhtaram
O Winds! If someday you pass by the sacred land, then pass my salaams
before the Rauza-e-Azqas where the most exalted Nabi s rests
Maw wajhuhoo shamsud duhaa man khadduhoo badrud dujhaa
Man zaatuhoo noorul hudaa man kaffuhoo bahrul hamam
He who's blessed face is the midday sun
and his blessed cheeks are the full moon
He who's self is the light of guidance and who's generosity is an ocean
Qur'aanuhoo burhaanoonaa faskhal li'adyaanin madat
Iz jaa'a naa ahkaamuhoo kulloos suhufi saaral adam
The Qur'aan is our source that shows the other religions are abbrogated,
when it's rules and regulation came to us
the other books became like non-existing
Akbaadunaa majruhatun min sayfi hijril mustafaa
Tubaa li ahleey baladatin feehan nabiyyool muhthashaam
The Sadness of separation from Madinah feels like a sword stuck deep into my liver
How fortunate are the people of that city in which is the Exalted and Beloved Prophet s
Ya Rahmatal lilaalameen Anta shafi ul muznibeen
Akrim lanaa yowmal ha'zeen fadlaw wa joodaw wal karam
O' Mercy for All the worlds!, you are the intercessor for the sinners
Shower your blessings upon us on the day of grieve (Judgment)
Ya Rahmatal lilaalameen Adrik li zainil aabeedeen
Mahboosi aydiz zaalimeen fil mowkabee wal muzdahaam
O Rahmatulil Aalameen! Assist Zainil Abideen.
Who is standing alone and in difficulty amongst the tyrants.