Shaykh Hamza on Women Imams

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  1. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    "From an Islamic standpoint Tantawi was considered a liberal reformer. He denounced female circumcision, once common in Egypt, and allowed abortion after rape. He banned the niqab (full face veil) in all Al Azhar's institutions and supported the French stance. He supported the legality of interest payments on monetary deposits, although Islam prohibits usury, and favoured judicial and administrative posts being open to women. He backed organ transplants. He argued that apostates from Islam should be left alone, rather than put to death, provided they did not belittle Islam or pose a threat to it."

    Have a read of this:
  2. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    abdalqadir is slandering Sayyidi Shaykh Nazim hafizuhuAllah ta'ala. I know abdalqadir has known Shaykh Nazim [but so have I, and so have SO MANY OTHER people I know. We have seen him VERY CLOSELY] and Allah is our witness on this truth on the Day of Judgement. Asking the kafir pope to do du'a for him makes no difference, and neither does visiting disneyland.
  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Brother your advise is above my eyes, but you should have seen some of the fatawa this person passed on things like banking, along with the infamous "niqab has nothing to do with Islam" comments violating ijma' and clearly seeking to appease the french. If I am not mistaken, he even issued fatawa saying women can remove hijab in places like france.

    I did not make takfir of him and I did not curse him, but stated what I understand to be his publicly known positions. If I am wrong, please do state how so, or if he retracted his positions, please let me know. Really, it's not for the sake of an ego trip and defending myself like this is the last thing I enjoy, but it's about time Sunnis stepped their foot down for the sake of the Ahlus Sunnah or deen will go to the dogs.

    I'm no 'bigger person' than you, only smaller than most Sunnis I know. But when the 'big people' make a mockery of deen like this, us 'small people' will have no choice but to speak up.

    Jazak Allah for your advise and it is well received and my response to you is not with the intention of arguing or defending myself.

    And to Allah we turn for help.
  4. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    I would maintain silence and caution when commenting on Shaykh Sayyid Tantawi rather than including him in your list of people who are
    . This is just some small advice from a small person.
  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Being the bloody batini ismaili that he has become, he will probably legalize muta as some sort of a halal dating procedure, but he will speak out against 4 marriages, because he has to appease the 'Muslim' and other women's liberation/feminist groups - you know the whole thing about the fiqh of 'my rights' and how polygamy was only intended for helping war widows and so on.

    He has already stated on Al-Jazeera that he considers the hadd punishment of amputating hands for theft as 'backwards'. (Sorry I can't be bothered digging up the video)

    Muslim scholars should give a fatwa against this batini.

    To be honest, these guys have overtaken the wahabis by leagues. The wahabis have a problem with 3aqidah and kalam, yes, but in cases like this, these people are much much much worse than wahabis. In fact it's not that they are any charming in 3aqidah or kalam either. They have made a joke of Ash3ari and Maturidi 3aqaid, and our wonderful deobandi friends, as always loving to piggy-back on celebrities, have given them a solid turbo boost.

    This is a new group of non-initiated "sufis" who like to come across as the missing link between sufis and wahabis and in fact are 20 times worse than wahabis and shias together.

    It's people like

    suhaib webb
    tariq ramadan (these 2 openly call for a new fiqh, saying the 4 madhabs are no longer relevant, afaik)
    yusuf qaradawi
    tantawi (deceased)
    mark hanson
    tim winters

    and other such people, with faraz rabbani very quickly following into their footsteps.

    Not that initiated "sufis" like tahirul padri or nazim al-qubrusi or nuh keller are any better.

    As a scholar told me, "things are getting absolutely worse by the day".
  6. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    In future he might bring forward a minority opinion from some scholars of Kufa ( in past) about consuming Khamr, then he might quote opinion of Imam Ibn Humman al Halanfi Rh on the issue of raising fingers during Tashahudd ( also supported by Imam Rabbani Rh) and the issue of adult suckling supported by Ibn Taymiyya ,then he will bring the issue of keeping dog as a pet and bring quotes from the Maliki scholars. On his way to be a "grand scholar" he will then start quoting views of the companions ( may Allah be pleased with all of them) and he will bring quotes regarding muta, more than four marriages , women touching a man's hand while giving bayyah etc etc. Then he will ask his followers to chose any opinion which they like!

    This is Wahabbism. Join 3 months Arabic course and become a mufassir! Join oe year course and become a mujaddid!

    This is an easy way to weaken Islam and confuse those who are still learning Islam. Because the beginners might be convinced by the evidence , which in fact holds no weight.

    And this man is doing all this on the name of sufism, which is more alarming!
    He should know that views of 10-12 scholars does not become a "minority" view. It is infact 'no view' and all muslims must stick to only any four school of fiqh in the present time.
  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    With all this talk of "renewal" and "tajdeed" and how the entire Muslim world is ignorant of the Islamic tradition other than him and how only intellectual giants can bring about this revolution - he is giving out implicit subliminal messages saying "Accept me as a mujaddid. I am an awaited mujaddid for you guys."

    I know from 6 years back, his murids have been trying to promote this guy as a mujaddid.

    Another 5 - 10 years and he might even be declared "sultan al-awliyaa" or perhaps even "mehdi" by his fan club.

    This is nothing but a new cult in the making.
  8. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

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