Shaykh Muwaffaq al-Murabi refutes Usman Iqbal and Abdul Haleem

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  1. Khanah

    Khanah New Member

    It's funny isn't it- if you think milad is bidah and istigatha is shirk, why on earth would you study from scholars who promote/act upon these beliefs? And why aren't their elders stopping them yet they try to refute barelviyya on those same issues- shouldn't they try and refute these Turkish and Syrian scholars just as much?

    Shows you what's off about them...

    Jazak Allah khair
     
  2. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    Deobandis have started to travel to Turkey and have begun studying with the Syrian scholars. Once they infiltrate their circles, they are acting like victims and saying that Barelwis make Takfir of them and all the Students who returned back from Syria are trouble makers. They ignore the Salawat at the time of Azan that Syrians and Turks do, they ignore the Mawlids, the Tawassul and Istighatha so they can fit in.

    Whilst Barelwis are infighting, the Deobandis are taking advantage and are even opening their own institutes in Turkey. Sunnis need to be more engaging for the Youth and offer more things in their Mosques, instead of focusing on petty arguments because the Wahabis and Deobandis are taking over in the UK and abroad.

    Where are the Sunni equivalents of people like Mohammed Hijab?

    Why do Sunnis not have any presence in places like speakers corner in London ?

    Who among the non-existent Ulamah in London will tackle the Salafi Dawah and deal with the poison being spread by people like AbdulRahman Hassan, Dawah Man and Ali Dawah?

    A young generation is being drawn to Wahabism and Deobandism in London and other places, why have many of the Ulama just catered for youths from the Indian subcontinent and left the youths from all the other communities to be drawn in by the Wahabis and Deobandis ?

    Where are the Sunni owned platforms like Ilm Feed that is being run by Deobandis?
     
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  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    as i have said, in ki qismat mein zillat aur jootey khana hi likha hai.
    even their own maulvi taqi usmani rejected the shenanigans of these two clowns.


    that is for people with shame. don't expect hayaa from devbandis in general and these two in particular.

    alahazrat has said that devbandis have probably taken an oath to act upon the hadith without fail:

    إِذَا لَمْ تَسْتَحِي فَاصْنَعْ مَا شِئْتَ
     
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  4. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    These dare devils have been caught red handed here. Mawalana Shahid of Bradford has done a really good job of countering them and he deserves the credit and support for replying to these devils from Bradford.

    All this whilst the rest of English speaking Ulemah in Bradford sleep walk and stay silent due to their allegiances else where.

    They (Bradford English speaking Ulemah) should bury they head in the sand.

    Our innocent Sunni public once again confused because the silence of the English speaking Ulemah. We have a number of Sunni public who send their children to these Deobandi Madressah that are run by those associated to or without Usman and Co. as they pretend to be under cover Sunnis!

    This for sure has and will make more people aware, people of Bradford and North should take heed otherwise our coming generations will suffer and lose their Sunni Identity.
     
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  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Has anyone given them some chullu bhar pani yet?
     
  6. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    Usman Iqbal and Abdul Haleem manipulated and attributed words to Shaykh Muwaffaq al-Murabi al-Damishqi regarding the Barelvi & Deobandi issue and deceitfully published the video on YouTube:



    We recognise that the Deobandis are trying to cosy up to the Ulama of Shaam as a form of association and acceptance by travelling to Turkey from the UK but to then falsely attribute words to them in an attempt to disparage Imam Ahmad Raza Khan and Shaykh Asrar Rashid to further their agenda is absolutely disgraceful.

    We have seen many Deobandis like Muhammad Yasir al-Hanafi, Zoheeb Iqbal, Yousaf Baig, Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari and others that have studied at the Dewsbury Markaz and Darul Uloom Bury flock to Turkey to associate with Syrian, Iraqi, Kurdish, Palestinian and Turkish Ulamah as well as set up institutes to make themselves look like orthodox Sunnis.

    Shaykh Muwaffaq al-Murabi al-Damishqi was made aware of the lies and has published the following video after he came out of hospital and Shaykh Dawud [David Trevelyan] has given a translation in English @ 8 mins:



    The document that the Shaykh published has been attached too.

    Shaykh Asrar Rashid has said the following:

    Shaykh Muwaffaq (Allah give him good health) of Damascus, Syria clarifies the misconstrued recording of Usman and Abdul Haleem. This is not the first time these people have lied, twisted facts, made recordings without permission and put them online, or made fake accounts on social media to tarnish and do propaganda. The purpose of posting is this video is not regarding the Deobandi issue itself but to point out the dishonesty of these two specific individuals. This issue has gone beyond the pale of an honest intellectual debate or dialogue, therefore in the future it is better these two individuals and those who support them are avoided as they are absolutely discredited. As for academic honest and sincere discussion amongst learned people that will continue.


    Shaykh Mohammed Aslam has said the following:

    Clarification from our teacher Shaykh Muwaffaq al-Murabi' regarding distortion and academic dishonesty. Amanah and truthfulness are the two wings of a believer.

    The reason I am sharing this is because I was approached by many people who know that the Shaykh is my teacher. Indeed, the Shaykh is from the scholars of Shaam who upholds the beliefs and tradition of the Ahl al-Sunnah. He is the Khalifa of Shaykh Salih al-Hamawi in the Shadhili Tariqah and a pillar at Ma'had al-Islami. May Allah bless the Shaykh with cure and wellbeing. He came out the hospital today and made this video despite feeling unwell and extremely weak.
     

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