The length of the beard

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  1. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    It is worthy of note that AlaHazrat RadiAllahu Anhu did not say regarding those who shave or trim beard less than fistful that they are our brothers who merely follow a different opinion, rather he stated:

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  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator


    interestingly, mawdudi held the same position.

    here's an analysis from mawdudi's own follower. and a devbandi opportunist blaming mawdudi for the same.

    But even more interesting is that mawdudi has a risalah named Maslak-e-I'tidaal, in which he presents his profoundly egregious opinions about the science of hadith. Not sure but is that title jinxed or what?

    Those who cannot read urdu can see partial translations here and here (slide#136). [Note: I don't vouch for the correctness of these translations]

    Those who can, see Part#1, page#350 here.

    Here's a screenshot.

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  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

  4. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    Ghulam Ali and Unbeknown like this.
  5. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    Has it been uploaded yet?
     
  6. faqir

    faqir Veteran


    Below is a 1st draft translation someone sent me - click on attachment below if interested.

    was-salam
     

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  7. basirqadri786

    basirqadri786 Banned

    you are still hanging around here ?
    ask zameel deogandi
     
  8. Abul Hasnayn

    Abul Hasnayn musjidulhaq.com

    Inspired by "Kanz ul Huda Intl.'s" attempt at bamboozling us with PIR SAQIB SHAAMI's excerpts or random quotes, we translated ALA HAZRAT'S FATWA regarding maintaining a shari' length beard entitled "A Clear Morning Light in regards to increasing one’s Beard - By Imam Ahmed Rida Muhaddith Barelwi Alayhir Rahmah", the document as is is 20000 words long and still requires about 100 Arabic text inserts including aqwaal,hadith and Quran , will upload once completed (which I anticipate will be within the next five weeks in Sha Allah Azawajal) on musjidulhaq.com and paste the link on that thread also In Sha Allah Azzawajal.

    Those who consider our attempts at translation on musjidulhaq.com of a poor standard we humbly invite them to consider our efforts as a first draft and submit the corrections which we will rectify as needed. Our works are available at no cost, and essentially ad-free online, and the English reading public should feel to print and distribute. We request your prayers that the translation work continues and benefits the public.

    In conclusion, we pray the PIR submits himself to the SHARI REQUIREMENTS as detailed by SAYYIDI ALA HAZRAT Alayhi Rahma, as he used to do whilst he was a member of DAWATE ISLAMI before his travels to SHAAM.
     
  9. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    I have an unedited translation into English of the late sh. ghulam rasul sa'idi's article on the subject from his sharh (see post 18 above). its not been proofread. if people are interested i can upload it but it should not be distributed as the translator has told me its not been checked
     
  10. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    The beard is the Sunnah of the Ambiya (Alaihimus Salaam), the recognition of a Muslim and the beauty to the face of a man. Hereunder is proof from the Holy Qur’an and Ahadith about the importance of following this beautiful Sunnah of our Beloved Rasool (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam).

    To shave off the beard is the way of the kuffaar, mushrikeen and majoosis (fire-worshippers). It is for this reason that Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) commanded us in numerous Ahadith to act against this by lengthening our beards and trimming our mustaches. Hazrat Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anh) narrates that Rasoolullah said, “Oppose the mushrikeen (polytheists); lengthen the beards and trim the moustaches.” [Bukhari Shareef] Imam Nafi’ (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anh) further states, “Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anh), during Hajj or Umrah used to hold on to his beard with his fist and cut off whatever was in excess of that.” [Bukhari Shareef] This Hadith in which we are commanded to lengthen the beards has also been narrated by Sayyiduna Abu Huraira (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anh) and he also trimmed his beard to one fist length. [Sahih Muslim]

    The verdict of growing the beard as being Wajib is deduced from the above mentioned Hadith, which is one of many Ahadith with a similar command. This is because any explicit command of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is regarded as Wajib, if there is no apparent or clear proof which states that that particular command is for a certain preference. This is an established fact in the principles of Fiqh. Therefore it becomes Wajib upon us to follow the command of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) in lengthening our beards. Allah Ta’ala has mentioned in the Holy Qur’an, “Therefore let those who do against the command of the Messenger fear, lest some trial befall them or a painful torment overtake them.” [Surah Noor, Verse 63] This verse clearly tells us the result of not following the command of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam).

    Furthermore, the Imams of all four Mazhabs i.e. Imam-e-Azam Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi’ee, Imam Malik and Imam Ahmad bin Hambal (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anhum) are in consensus that it is Haraam to shave the beard. Therefore no one can say that he belongs to a different Mazhab and is allowed to shave his beard.

    A’la Hazrat Imam Ahle Sunnat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anh) states that to shave off completely or trim the beard very short once is a minor sin and to habitually do so is a major sin. This continuous act will make one a Faasiq-e-Mu’lin (Open Transgressor) and the court of Shariah will reject such a person as a valid witness. To perform Salaah with Jama’at behind such a person is forbidden and if Salaah is performed, it will be incumbent to repeat that Salaah. [Malfooz Shareef]

    We therefore learn from the above that it is Wajib for a Muslim male to grow a beard. It is also Wajib to let the beard grow to a fist length and it is prohibited to shave the beard or to trim it less than a fist length. It is however permissible to trim the beard if it is beyond a fist length as reported by Hazrat Abu Hurairah (Radiallahu Ta’ala Anh) and other Tabi’een. [Fathul Baari] Nobody has permitted the trimming of the beard to lesser than a fist length. [Durre Mukhtar, Fathul Qadeer]

    Mufti Ahmad Yaar Khan Qadri Naeemi (Rahmatullah Alaih) explains some of the benefits of lengthening the beard:

    • The beard is the beauty and the Noor of a man’s face.
    • A beard hinders a person from committing sins.
    • A beard increases the virility of a man. [Islami Zindagi]
    But most importantly growing a beard is following the command as well as the beautiful Sunnah of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam). Do we even need any more motivation than this?

    Some individuals acknowledge that it is Wajib to keep a beard, but argue that there is no mention of any specific length in the Hadith. Therefore if one has a bit of hair on his face, irrespective of the length, it would fulfil the command of growing a beard. This is due to a lack of understanding of the Hadith. Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) has commanded us to lengthen the beard and not just to keep a beard. The difference between the two is quite clear. If one just keeps a shortened beard he will not be fulfilling the command of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam). Therefore, to intentionally keep a short or stubble beard is not sufficient; lengthening the beard is Wajib.

    Let us look at what Allah Ta’ala says in the Holy Qur’an with regard to following the commands of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam):

    1. “O believers! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him after hearing him.” [Surah 8, Verse 20]
    2. “Undoubtedly, you have the best in the following of the Messenger, for him who hopes for Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.” [Surah 33, Verse 21]
    3. “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain from that. And fear Allah; undoubtedly the torment of Allah is severe. [Surah 59, Verse 7]
    4. “O Beloved! Say you, “O people! If you love Allah, then follow me; Allah will love you and will forgive your sins and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”” [Surah 3, Verse 31]
    5. “Whoso obeys the messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah, and whoso turns away his face, then We have not sent you to save them.” [Surah 4, Verse 80]
    Allah Ta’ala clearly tells us in the Holy Qur’an to obey Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) and to take what he gives us. He has given us his beautiful Sunnah but we choose to ignore it and follow the appearance of the kuffaar. Allah Ta’ala says that if we love Almighty Allah then we must follow Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam). Can we then claim to love Allah Ta’ala when we cannot even follow such a simple command of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) to grow a beard on our faces? Do we not fear the torment of Allah Ta’ala? Why is it so difficult to at least make our faces resemble in some way to the blessed face of our beloved Aaqa (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam)?

    May Allah Ta’ala grant us the Taufeeq to adorn our faces with beautiful beards as our Master Muhammad Mustafa (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) has commanded us to do, Ameen.

    http://raza-e-khushtar.org/articles/practicing-islam/significance-of-the-beard
     
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i began reading the book/risalah on shortening the beard, and was put off in the first few pages.

    the author - obviously far more pious and far more knowledgeable than hanafi imams of previous centuries - starts off on a note that the beard and cap/head-covering was just incidental, because it was the practice of the arabs (SaHabah) of that age and hence RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam simply let them be. i was seriously put-off by this.

    i am sure all these brilliant and wise fuqaha will now expound upon how circumcision is just a habit and not necessary - and decry those extremists who consider this 'habit' to be a mark of muslims. will you become kafir if you don't circumcise your son? come on, don't be an extremist. also, shaving the pubes, trimming nails are all just habits - don't insist on these things.

    i read some more of the book and left it off as it is tedious to read.
    i found his tone similar to an atheists argument, who insists on freedom of opinion but also insists that you accept his viewpoint.

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    i personally consider shortening it lesser than a handful as Haram - following alahazrat; just because some contemporary scholar doesn't consider alahazrat to be a muHaqqiq, i will not be giving away all my books of alahazrat.

    also, i repeat all prayers i pray behind sunni ulama who shorten their beard less than a handful.

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    Allah ta'ala knows best.

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    وقص اللحية من صنع الأعاجم وهو اليوم شعار كثير من المشركين كالإفرنج والهنود ، ومن لا خلاق له في الدين من الطائفة القلندرية
     
  12. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    Alternative links from sh. Loay's FB page.


    للمهتمين بتحقيق مسائل المذهب الحنفي، هذان بحثان في حكم التشبه بغير المسلمين، ومختصره في حكم قص اللحية وحلقها لأخينا الدكتور الشيخ صلاح أبو الحاج.
    والشيخ يريد أن يصل بحثه لأكبر عدد من مشايخ الحنفية، ويطلب ممن يوافقه في الحكم أن يكتب تقريظه على البحثين قبل طباعتهما حتى يتسنى له تقديم الكتاب بتقريظات أهل المذهب.

    http://www.mediafire.com/…/%D8%AD%D9%83%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%…

    وفي التعليق الأول حكم قص اللحية وحلقها:
    http://www.mediafire.com/…/%D8%AD%D9%83%D9%85_%D9%82%D8%B5_…
     
  13. faqir

    faqir Veteran

  14. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    double post
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2015
  15. azizq

    azizq Well-Known Member

    A Dawat e Islami Mufti discusses Mufti Ghulam Rasool Saeedi's view about the beard. He seems to respect his view.

    Q: AssalamuAlaikum mufti sahib app ki allama ghulam rasool saeedi kaqi bare mein kia raye hian? unho nay jo darhi kai qabze per bahas ki hain wo kahan tuk sahih hain tafseel say arz kardein? jub kisi fuqha nay yuk musht darhi wajib nahin likhi to is per fatwa kiu diya jata hian?

    http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=4336
     
  16. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    The scans are full of quotes from hanafi authorities of old. its a case of how one interprets there words.....
     
  17. I hope we're still talking about beards here! ;-) Otherwise you need to go to a specialist!!! :D

    Eid Mubarak!
     
  18. Abu Ibraheem

    Abu Ibraheem Guest

    Salamun Alaykum

    Shaving is haram. Trimming is close to haram, makruh tahrimi, which also makes it waajib to repeat your Salah if you pray behind a trimmer.
     
  19. YoungBrother

    YoungBrother New Member

    So this basically means in the Hanafi Madthab its either four fingers long or its haraam?
     
  20. Abu Ibraheem

    Abu Ibraheem Guest

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