To be honest so far what i have read on this whole issue is conflicting. (This doesn't mean in anyway what so ever that there is no answer to this or the issue is really conflicting to begin with and only appears as such to me.) This is what I have read on the issue so far: According to Opinion A: 1)Any alcohal found even in small traces in the food is haram regardless of the source from which it is derived. They base this on multiple evidence such as "that which intoxicates in large quantities, is prohibited even in lesser quantities." According to Opinion B: 1) Alcohal which is derived from grapes, dates is Haram. Whereas that which is produced from other than it is NOT haram*. 2) And therefore they say since the Alcohal produced in-situ from the fermentation of Soya beans and wheat (not from grapes or dates) or incident formation of alcohal during making of certain foods would be permissible as long as it is: 1)Not being used to intoxicate. 2)Not being used in an amount that intoxicates; 3)Not being used as intoxicants are used; 4)Not being used for vain (i.e. useless) purposes. 6)from sources other than grapes, dates.. The quantities produced in the bread or (soya sauce???) donot lead to intoxication even when they are consumed in large quantities. Further more it is normally impossible to use them for intoxication. *That DOESNOT mean drinking wine, gin, beers, whiskey would be Halal. They are clearly meant for intoxication and used for vain purposes. _______________________________________________ I have consulted some ulema on this issue and I await their reply. To be on cautious side, I am eating chapatis and rotis. They are easier on the tummy than those roghni naans or pateers to be honest.