"Ustaza" Iffet Rafiq Promoting Wahabis

Discussion in 'Aqidah/Kalam' started by Sunnisoldier, Nov 21, 2016.

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  1. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member


    It's good to see that you've made an effort at contacting the school. Perhaps that particular email address is not in use. You should try another or visit the place yourself.


    Well, you see, there's no way of documenting or presenting forth verbal conversations that took place around ten years ago. Like I said before, I'm not the one with the problem and nor do I need to see evidence. This is your query.

    And I wouldn't just go by hearsay or assumptions or as you put it 'social-media and internet forums.' Why don't you begin with asking the scholars if you haven't been able to get through to the school as of yet?

    There's a lot more I could say but I really do not wish to go any further with this argument, purely for the sake of Allah and He is my witness. I feel that if you are sincere, then you will have husn al-dhan upon this school, until such time you receive a reply or an answer.
     
  2. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Well-Known Member

    Personally i think if you're going to tell people that JAK endorse Hussam ul Haramain then you should have proof, but i can see it would be difficult in your case since you actually had no proof to back your statement in the first place.

    I emailed them to clarify on November 24th 2016, thus far they have not answered and i doubt they will ever answer.
     

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  3. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member

    It is not my job to bring forth proof, Brother. I am personally content and at no issue with the school whatsoever. In any case, this is your query at the end of the day so it would be more fitting and appropriate for you to contact them yourself.

    As for the students on that page; we cannot hold an entire organisation to account for the actions of a few. Just as any scholar or Shaykh cannot/should not be criticised for the actions of a few Jahil Mureeds, I don't think it is fair to tarnish an entire school because of the actions/omissions of but a few, inexperienced students. That's what I think anyway, though admmittedly this may be easier for me to accept as a reason due to my preconception of the school's endorsement and support for Hussam al-Haramayn. But of course you can check it up yourself whenever you like.

    (And just as a side note- I can't think of any Sunni/Barelvi scholar in the UK who does not endorse Hussam al-Haramayn or one who believes in the innocence of the Deobandi Elders. It's almost as if it's written in our blood. Does something so ingrained within us still require renewed publication all the time?)


     
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  4. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Well-Known Member

    It should be easy for you to bring proof of this then In-sha-Allah.

    And I honestly hope they do endorse it as this is nothing personal against them.
     
  5. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Well-Known Member

    Neither is it guesswork or assumption, those graduates of JAK running that page blatantly avoided answering the question on clarification of their position and they blatantly deleted only the comments where they had been questioned if they agree with the Hussam al-Haramain... Doesn't take a brain surgeon to notice something wasn't right about that.

    As for what you mentioned about them endorsing a fatawa by Mufti Shams al-Huda Misbahi Sahib, that may be true but it doesn't answer why those graduates refused to answer and deleted the comments. Lets also not forget that JAK was ever so reluctant to drop JJ after he had insulted the mother of the believers may Allah be pleased with her.
     
  6. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member

    JAK endorses Hussam al-Haramain and has no reason to hide this or shy away from it. I don't know what has made you assume otherwise, unless it is of course just mere assumption or guesswork.

    The school was amongst the first to endorse the fatwa by Mufti Shams al-Huda Misbahi Sahib many years ago against Nuh Keller, when the latter attempted to exonerate the Deobandi elders of fault. I have heard this directly from senior graduates and teachers at the school on a few occasions. I can't see them all to be lying.
     
  7. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Well-Known Member

    Don't know about anybody else but in my mind red warning lights start flashing when I see the following names:

    Atabek Shukurov
    Zain ul Aqtab Siddiqui
    Abdal Hakim Murad
     
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  8. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Well-Known Member

    I seem to remember about a year ago there was a page on Facebook that was called "ask the sisters".. somebody commented on a post by them by asking what their views were on Hussam-ul-Haramain and thanvi & co. The comments got deleted by the sisters who obviously didn't like being basked. They were all graduates of JAK or still completing their studies there from what they mentioned on their statuses and page info.

    After this they were inboxed with the same enquiry but failed to answer yet again... then a status was put up on another page highlighting the above scenario and urging people to be careful until more is known and also a quote of A'la Hazrat was provided.. from the top of my memory it basically urged to avoid a imam who hides his Aqeeda.

    News of this obviously reached iffet rafeeq who then put up a post saying more or less that she has been made aware that "ask the sisters" has been warned against etc and that she wants to let everyone know their sunni. Obviously this shows she had quite some connection to the page. What is also evident is the JAK mentality about keeping silent on Hussam-ul-Haramain.
     
  9. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Well-Known Member

    This is what info is available about her via Google:

    Ustadha Iffet Rafeeq is the daughter-in-law of Mufti Abdul Rasool Mansoor Al-Azhari.

    She began her studies at the age of 16 at Jamia Al-Karam, where she studied Islamic studies and Classical Arabic under the likes of Shaykh Muhammad Imdad Hussain Pirzada, Hafiz Gul Muhammad Al-Azhari, and Hafiz Mahboob Al-Azhari, completing her classical ‘Aalimah course and achieving top marks consistently. During this time she was appointed as a teacher and a spiritual counsellor for convert Muslims. Whilst doing her 'Aalimah course, she also studied part-time with Shaykh Atabek Shukurov, and Shaykh Burhan Khandia.

    After graduating from Jamia Al-Karam, she was one of the three students selected for a scholarship for Al-Azhar University in Cairo where she studied Arabic Grammar.

    Upon returning to the UK, she was appointed as a teacher of Islamic Theology at City Hasanat College. It was during this time that she completed her diploma in business management. She continued her studies with Shaykh Zain ul Aqtab Siddiqui of Suyuti Institute. She has experience in teaching in both Secondary schools and higher education.

    She is currently studying Contextualised Islamic and Leadership studies in Cambridge Muslim College under the world renowned scholar Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...et-rafeeq&gws_rd=cr&ei=uJU1WKb7DMrwgAau96egBg
     
  10. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member

    Most people are unaware of the said person's deviant beliefs. I have met numerous people say (mind you, this was some time back) that he is Sunni and numerous others say he isn't...

    But this 'Fatwa' business of recent times is the least of our concerns really. Abu Layth Sahib sees no issue with the Deobandi elders, especially where we hold them to account for their blasphemies. He is not alien to our culture, language or history, so we cannot excuse him for that reason. He is also a student of Binoria Darul Uloom. Though he claims to respect both Barelvi (Sunni) and Deobandi Scholars, we all know that you cannot respect Deobandi elders/Ullama and still remain a Sunni, at least where the sub-Continent is concerned and obviously once a person is informed of the issue/conflict.
     
  11. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    If the Layth thing is recent, then try contacting her teachers. She might just be unaware.

    I remember alerting her page to the fitnah of Haroon Hanif and I'm sure they removed the post.
     
  12. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier New Member

    Thank you guys for the response.

    I did not not realise that the post was old it was being shared on social media.
    As for her sharing Abu Layth's obscure fatwa just over a month ago - that is recent.

    People have been notified but refuse to comment.
     
  13. Adam Yahya

    Adam Yahya Active Member

    If the post is quite old and the mentioned person has not shared anything like this recently, then I think it should all be dropped. Tweets and Facebook posts are such animals that one doesn't remember himself what he posted a few years ago and why. The same could perhaps be said for any of us whom previously may have supported TUQ and the like, posts which are still online and open to see if someone was to bring it up from the past, yet we have since changed our opinions...

    Otherwise, the best thing to do would be to contact Maulana Hafiz Gul Sahib and this should be done in a sincere and kind-hearted manner, if we are to change anything or get the message passed on.

    We don't have many female teachers or personalities as it is, so attacking them or not dealing with such cases with wisdom and proportionality could discourage any person involved from continuing all the good work that they're doing. That would indeed be a huge loss considering the current state of our Jammah.
     
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  14. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    She is wife of Hamaad son of Mufti Abdul Rasool Mansoor from Redditch.
     
  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    That tweet is very old btw.
     
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  16. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    I think she's a grad of al-Karam so it's best to contact people like Hafiz Gul to see if they can ask her to stop promoting heretics.
     
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  17. FaqirHaider

    FaqirHaider Shajar-e-Sharjeel Shajar-e-Uthman

    Best approach her teachers and ask them to discuss this oddity.
     
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  18. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier New Member

    @Aqdas: This woman is disguised as an ustadha and leading many people astray. She promotes Abu Layth and Mufti Menk and encourages are sisters to travel without Mahram. Something needs to take place to address this.[​IMG]
     

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