Why "Islamic" forums are a complete waste of valuable time. And how everyone's full of it

Ustadh Yasir, you are a fresh breeze from across the pond. And i will unconditionally support you always. The forums are meant primarily to network, gain information, inter-connect, and seek quick advice from people across the world; polemics are peripherals. Introduction to the works of 'Ala Hazrat is another reason as well as gaining information on Sunni scholars from around the world. They are like a catalyst to real life activities; source of advertisement of events and taking the message quickly to masses.

After years of confusion, Sunniport helped save my imaan from deobandis back in 2008

Brother aN did ask whether polemics ought to be banned. But they were allowed and have dominated the forum. i am personally extremely guilty on various grounds and feel ashamed of myself and ask the forgiveness of all brothers here to forgive me

 

Thanks for your pat on my back. But how exactly do you benefit from my haranguing posts. Except from knowing about my- most of the time- irrelevant views, just like everyone else's irrelevant views.

We all just want a means to express our thoughts because no ones probably willing to listen or accept our views. I think that could be interpreted as a case of us simply being a bunch of low lives.

Or, on the other hand, maybe it could be that the ones not willing to listen to our views directly face to face are the prime low lives themselves because they blindly follow aspects of din without further investigation; because investigation may lead them away from certain people or views and so on.

Like I said, my initial intention for coming on here was to mention aspects of Sunni society which when discussing with people directly would lead to misindersranding. And when discussing online makes one look obsessed.

Either way, dialogue will not really be resolved by these methods. Simply because the ulama aren't/will not/have not/don't want meetings to discuss and agreed upon notions.

(This above outlined sentence is the crux of the matter and cream of the crop in every single regard and sense- due to which, upon not seeing it implemented, I will try my utmost to remain silent both online and in real life inshaAllah. Moreover, constructive critiques maybe written by myself in the near future and released as books or articles)

Examples of why we're wasting time :

For eg, by now at least, after us all agreeing on here that open gatherings of qawwali are impressible altogether- and since no one has been able to prove us wrong- should it not be the case, in real life at least, that some change on qawwali, for example, at least should be seen in effect?

And also, likewise, another minute example: Amatullah and khadimu we comfortably proved how shaykh Yaqoubis close ties with HY are immoral.
And also that (when they continuously ask us) whether hukm upon Sh yaqoubi is necessary, i mentioned that thats an of the point question because the Shaykhs immoral stance is in your face, so to speak.

My point is that, such people, still, alongside having nicks and no one knowing who they really are, were obviously and patently unable to prove us wrong, they stopped posting but still, again, not much has changed in real life

The point is:

polemics, even with ahl al bida nowadays, doesn't change much in society really does it?

Unless of course there were open constructive and organised debates taking place

Life's too short, and for the rest of it I hope to start memorising chunks of al Quran al karim and other things as such.

May Allah grant us tawfiq to remain sincere and death on ahl al sunnah the way out ulama have told us about it.

Amin bi jah al nabiyy al Amin!

Sall Allah alayhi wa alihi wa sahbihi wa sallam!

 

All forums have flaws brother, but they do benefit people too... If anything there is a need for active sunni forums otherwise the alternatives for muslims are salafi/deobandi/tafdhili shia forums

We can benefit with posters like yourself so i humbly ask for you to reconsider deleting your account

 

This is the last thread and series of posts I will be posting. After this thread reaches a level of no one being able to answer anything I will delete my account and stop posting due to the following reasons:

1)
None of us can make a change except by actually learning and teaching.
This isn't even a medium for teaching really. Otherwise "controversial" threads wouldn't be allowed also. I think so anyway. It's more of a chaska that we all have indulged in to, to an extent that some of us, really unfortunately, are drowning badly.

2)
Like I always stress, that the modern means of media and Internet and technology has many unneeded aspects, likewise I believe "Islamic" forums are a absolute complete waste of time.
Even for learning purposes. Because everyone thinks himself a mufti. Especially deenporters. But guys on here also do. So do I at times. And that's what we ought to regret.

3)
These forums are a quasi cult within themselves in that a group of blatant guys (at times feeling self righteous about that attribute) choose to go all out even if it entails referring to shaykh Nazim as "dead" and far worse.

Abu hassan (whom I praise for allowing himself to be dismissed many a time- among other good attributes- aspects which other mods on other "Islamic" forums wouldn't allow) has his flaws also as a moderator.
Abu hassan is supposed to be editing abdul qadirs and ghulams and others' bad manners and sarcasm before anything. The same way you edited my expression regarding naqshabandi.

I've yet to post many more points.