Mobiles in Prayer

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  1. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    yes, please do
     
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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    shall we close this thread?
     
  3. Layman

    Layman Banned

    What is door say supposed to mean? You know about my limitations so please explain. I will remember your words when knowledge comes to me (and i realise what you meant) or if it is an insult i will consider it as a warning to myself
     
  4. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    brother, your reading, writing, and comprehension, all the skills are very poor. I can't talk to you. salam (door say)
     
  5. Layman

    Layman Banned

    What gustakh to elders?


    Yes i agree what you don't know can correct a person.
     
  6. Layman

    Layman Banned

    I didn't read the prayers again

    And why would i get a fatwa from non sunnis? What is your reasoning behined this?
     
  7. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    as well as being arrogant, and gustakh to elders as well.

    someone wrote a nice adage on a wall, it read "ilm ki kami ka ahsaas bhi ilm say hi hota hay"

    I would translate it thus "only knowledge will let you know that your knowledge is deficient"

    or, in other words, only an ignorant will always believe that he knows a lot.
     
  8. Layman

    Layman Banned

    No body said this
     
  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    please get a fatwa from non-ASWJ that praying behind an imam whose mobile phone rings is:

    a) shirk
    b) bid'ah
    c) Haram
    d) makruh

    and from the juristic perspective, is namaz valid or should we include it in mufsidat of salat?

    no no. even layman can decide what annuls prayer or not - even without any reference.

    YAY!!
     
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  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i asked you pointed questions which you ignored to wallow in your puddle of vagueness.

    did any sunni scholar praise an imam for carrying a phone during namaz and that it rings often?

    "oh, that imam. i admire him. you know every namaz, his phone rings WOW! and at high decibel..OOOH!"

    who said this and when?
     
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  11. Layman

    Layman Banned

    I get it from the other Mosques where phone tones and vibrates are not allowed and talks where adab/gustakhi of the prayer has been taught to us


    What did you mean? That you'd avoid prayer behined the imam only if the mufti said so? Is that what you meant or did you say that you wouldn't if Music, songs were the ringtone?
     
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  12. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    as I said you are not good at reading, I don't know what to say about your comprehension.

    from where did you get it? or have you graduated to a mufti last night?
     
  13. Layman

    Layman Banned

    Brother it being unislamic is not actually up for genuine discussion. It is Unislamic

    and the situation is like this
    [] it is un-islamic, his phone rings often, then it is a shame for the imam. A mufti will tell you the ruling about such an imam, so consult a mufti. I would avoid praying behind such an imam because of his repeated fisq.


    What did you mean? Only songs and music! ?
     
  14. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    :) you are not good at reading, I said

    such as music, songs etc.
     
  15. Layman

    Layman Banned

    I initially missed this post. Its good to see some words of condemnation.
    This was the only thing on which i can say i disagree with you. The vibrate function is also a distraction and worthy of condemnation.


    nothing except ASWJ is lauding such people. You are right imam should at least act like an elder scholar and switch off his phone although ideally he shouldn't be acting at all. A lauded personality, teacher and 'alim' of ASWJ should be genuine


    I agree, you are right. I'll just avoid the the imam from now on.
     
  16. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

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  17. Layman

    Layman Banned

    thanks, I thought that site stopped answering. Is it running again?
     
  18. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    call the Dar ul Ifta run by Mufti Sham ul Huda sahab - I think it is in London;

    or just send a question to http://www.seekerspath.co.uk/ask-your-question/

    in both cases, you can prefer to remain anonymous.
     
  19. Layman

    Layman Banned

    Where is that, there isnt such majlis that i know of. Never even been to q&a
     
  20. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    why don't you meet them when they can answer you?
     
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