23rd July With Shaykh Asrar Bradford

Discussion in 'Events' started by kattarsunni, Aug 12, 2011.

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  1. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Listen at 4 min on wards. He mentions the reliable Ulama of our times and the most learned and pious. He names them as the 'Ulama Rabbaniyun'.

    He mentions a few names.
     
  2. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

  3. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

    inshaAllah I will contact Imran saab (the organiser)
     
  4. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Brother Waseem will you be putting Maulvi Sahibs speech on youtube?
     
  5. Little Shaam

    Little Shaam New Member

    InshaAllah - Azawajal
     
  6. Little Shaam

    Little Shaam New Member

    This weekend, see you all there!
     
  7. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

    Asalamu Alaikum,

    InshaAllah we are thinking of having a live stream for the event for the sisters. Also for the brothers who live far out.
     
  8. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

    *Rahimahullah
     
  9. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

  10. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

    I agree with you in regards the title Imam, as this title is used for the greatest of ulema. Although I would not have advertised this event myself by writing 'Allamah' Asrar teaching the life of 'Imam' Suyuti. Perhaps Shaykh Asrar teaching the life of 'Allamah Imam al-Suyuti. The issue is the use of 'Allamah, that's all. It appears to vary according to custom.
     
  11. Actually, the title may not be used in the Arab world, but mere tullab 'l-'ilm just have to sit on a sattelite channel and their fatawa will be followed all over the Arab world, by people who -- by in large -- take their din from their TV sets. The point is, there is a lack of adab (putting things in their correct place) everywhere. [you're point about imam vs. 'allamah was also not so precise.]
     
  12. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

    My point was not Shaykh Asrar himself, who is one of the people of knowledge. Rather, I think the ummah is belittling titles. I'm not aware of such use of titles in the arab world for people who have studied 6-7 years. As Suleiman points out, maybe its a sub-continent phenomenon.
     
  13. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

    asalamu alaikum brothers/sisters,

    I have contacted and they say they will inshaAllah post up videos of the last event. I will inshaAllah post up the video on this topic aswell.
     
  14. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    Good post Brother KattarSunni. This is the only problem jealousy and I know which camp it comes from.

    We have to just ignore this and carry on. I remember Hazrat Pir Syed Irfan Shah Sahib often say that people have mouths and we can't stop them. They say just ignore what they say and carry on.
     
  15. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Sidi Asrar Rashid has been studying with Ulama for over decade now with Ulama and is still studying. The local community of Birmingham have known him since he started his sarf tables with Saeedi Sahib and now watch him teach books like talwih, chighmini, mebzi,siraji, hidaya, urud etc etc Not many people are teaching these works and sciences inthese areas. People like me and others know sidi Asrar since he first was wearing a green turban at twelve. May ALLAH protect all Sunni youth from jealousy and commercialism.
     
  16. Umm actually, 'Imam' is reserved for the greatest of 'Ulama and Mujtahidun, so that point is totally null and void. Who refers to Imam Abu Hanifah as 'Allamah? It's only in the West where mere tullab 'l-'ilm are referred to as 'Imam'.

    In the subcontinent, 'Allamah is used more freely which may or may not be a good thing.
     
  17. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    I think these events are really good and need to carry on. Only thing I feel is that the topics needs to be on some of the beliefs of Ahlus Sunnah.

    We have Abu Osama Wahabi adding videos like mad attacking Sunni Aqeedah on Youtube. I think the shaykh needs to focus on him and answer what he has been saying.

    Videos need to be recorded and added on Youtube so that people can view them.
     
  18. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

    Do you guys have any suggestions about the event i.e.

    timings?
    QandA?
    What the Allama Asrar should talk about?
     
  19. mwasim2011

    mwasim2011 New Member

    MashaAllah, if Syed Irfaan Shah says Allamah Asrar...who are we to object to that. just saying.
     
  20. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    Their is nothing wrong in this. Nowadays Molvis like Muzzamil Shah are called Allamah & Moulana even though scholars in his own camp say he isn't a scholar. None of the Ulema really consider him a Alim.

    Shaykh Muhammad Asrar has studied 6 or 7 years and I believe he is still studying with some scholars. Just because people don't like someone or don't feel one should be called a Allamah doesn't mean that should be the case.

    As for Brother KattarSunni's post, this isn't a game people can say what they want. We don't have to remove anything of the Shaykh from the net. If you want to do that, he has also said he finds it strange that the Shaykh will be speaking about Imam" Suyuti RA. So what we do now, stop his lectures as well?

    Pir Sayyid Irfan Shah Sahib on Shaykh Muhammad Asrar
     

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