budally ummah channel

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  1. Abu al-Qasim

    Abu al-Qasim Active Member

    It definitely stands for Chaudry in this context, seeing as all these guys are from or have roots in Punjab, Pakistan. Wadood is correct to an extent, but mostly heard it is used for anyone in the Punjab, who is rich, well respected, a landowner etc.
     
  2. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Chaudhary? used for JaTTs, and Arains in Pakistan
     
  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    what does the "Ch" stand for in Ch Nadeem Ali Qadri?

    cheikh? (as spelled in french)
     
  4. Abu Hafsah

    Abu Hafsah New Member

    Why was ''shaykh'' Umar trying to back up his JJs case by bringing evidence of the life of Sayyidna Rasulallah Alahisalaatho Wasallaam's Makkan life yet he needs to start reading the Madani life, the set up of the Islamic state, constitution, the laws and punishments implemented on those who insulted the Messenger Salallaahualahiwasallam? imbeciles like Abu Rafi, Kaab bin Ashraf, ibn Khattal etc?? What happened to these people??

    Hasn't this guy read books on punishments regarding those who do Sabb or Shatham on the wives of the prophet Salallaahualahiwasallam?
    Now these deviants are our ''brothers''??

    I was reading the last part of As-Saarim al Maslul by ibn Taymiyyah that even he is stating the hadd punishment for insulting Sayyidah Aisha radiallahuanha so what is jj doing shedding crocodile tears and begging the public for forgiveness when he is supposed to be facing a Shariah court, a panel of Qadis and Muftis??

    He ''The shaykh'' I think was referring to Sayyid Irfan Shah Mashadi regarding his meeting with Prince Charles and Umar states ''would you say he met a ghustake rasul??'' For his information prince Charles has not done any ghustake so what is umar on about?? this guys mantiq is poor.
     
  5. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Mufakkirs murids speak academic and slang cockney also and mufakkirs diwan is recited at 27 min





    Mufakkir ran in some elections once himself he said
     
  6. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    He means they learn and prepare his speeches and use it for themselves. They use his research and material. He has said this for Umar, Hasnain and Mustafa Baig in one of his lectures also .
     
  7. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Sidi aq - you need to listen to what mufakkir says next and the full video. By 'tayyar' he means memorise his lectures.

    you need to be fair mufakkir e17 does his own tayyari
     
  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    no ghulam - mufakkir says - meri taqreerein aksar o peshtar, inhone tayyar ki hain

    unless mufakkir speaks a different urdu than the rest of us, or me at least, that means that the jolly old chap prepared his speeches.

    or perhaps he meant "tayyar ki hain" for uploading on youtube or transcribing on net purposes to hang his laundry out to dry!

    he also says that the budally guy speaks fluent Arabic, both slang and academic. is that true? is he an ITI accredited academic Arabic/ to academic Potwari translator?

    i do wonder who was the lucky mureed who prepared his "miraasi"-themed speeches!!

    since mufakkir knows academic and slang languages, i also wonder if he wrote his doctoral dissertation in academic english or cockney rhyming slang. maybe he can tell us what's the cockney rhyming slang for "miraasi".
     
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  9. Zulfiqar Haideri

    Zulfiqar Haideri New Member

    What was the reason for Nabeel Afzal turning up and then doing a legger? This was a golden chance to smash Umar Budally!
     
  10. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Other way round Ishy has transcribed and memorised mufakkirs speeches. aq you have misunderstood mufakkir
     
  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    in second video in post #4 the mufakkir of miraasis says that the ishtiaq ali chap wrote most of his speeches. and then he says whoever has written just 20 to 25 speeches for him, us ke jodr ka molvi is mulk mein milna mushkil hai. agreed - 100%. but mufakkir ought to fire the guy for such nonsense research.
     
  13. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    Mufikker e Millah Shaykh Umar Budally and his brother Shafiq Saab Ghomkholvi really let the Tabligh Jamaat and Deobandis feel good about themselves yesterday.

    It really made me cringe when Umar Budally kept on mentioning where had studied and his teachers. What an ego centric and it seems to me he was dying for numbers and fame. He called the deviant sects our brothers, kept on use derogatory remarks in to Ahl Sunnah (Barelvi) and it seemed as if he was on the show to put Barelvi (Ahlus Sunnah) in the UK as Jahils and Janglees he kept in saying the Barelvis insult and use profanity, he was clutching for the straws!

    It was a shame the Mawalna Nabeel Afzal or other Ulemah did not show up. We know the reason for Nabeel Afzal but what happAnd to the other fan club Budally Imam Asam Hussain? I am sure he was supposed to come on?
     
  14. Zulfiqar Haideri

    Zulfiqar Haideri New Member

    ... And what were the 'so called' sunni scholars doing??? Why didn't they turn up and expose Umar Budally??? Why did they let him have a free ride???
     
  15. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran





    Budally is mufakkir phira houwa damaks new right hand man. He can be seen above kissing the old mans feet. He was rewarded after he took mufakkir to egypt to meet mamduh
     
  16. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

  17. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Looks like Ummah Channel showed there true colours tonight - Wahabbis and shias are officially there brothers Umar also referred to Thanvi as mawlana and said that he did not want to be apart of so called Barelwi Islam.

    Pretty disgusted with the program
     
  18. Mohammed Wasim

    Mohammed Wasim AhistaChal

    Salaam,

    Umar badaaly is spewing out usual rubbish. Referring to deos and Shias as his brothers.
     

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