Fatimah superior to Mawla Ali and all mankind

No comment yet from Pir Irfan Shah Saab or Nabeel Afzal And his buddies about this issue.

 

Ameen.

 

And that too due to a number of reasons. We hope and pray that Allah Ta’ala brings Syed Sahib back away from them misguided. Such a shame

 

Yeah I agree @Ghulam Ali... their credibility is severely in question at the moment and those around them are getting bolder.

There is hope that Jalali sahib will be released in the coming week (s) In sha Allah, so will have to see what will happen then.

I also wonder if Syed Irfan Shah will be returning to the UK anytime soon. I don't think their reputation is any better here. Apparently, their conference in terms of numbers was significantly down on previous years.

 

under this ‘supervision‘ their brother made these comments which are not just against Sunni beliefs but even One step further than what the Shia state.

question now is do they still hold the credibility to be taken as an authority within Sunni Islam

 

If he made ruju then he should be speaking to Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah for harshly rebuking him.
I remember that but the differece between Syed Muzaffar Hussain and Jalali sahib was that Shah sahib's clarification was accepted and Jalali Sahib's was not. No worse, it was used to indict him further or as Sh Nabeel says, he snookered himself.

If the likes of Syed Riaz Shah and Hanif Qureshi have really done ruju; they should do Ameer Muawiyya conference under the supervision of Hujjat ul Islam

 

could be. Either way they can hardly say anything after what was said by Syed Mahfuz Mashadi sahib regarding Afzaliyyat and sharing stage with known and open rafzis

 

Apparently syed muzaffar shah is also yazeedi. This was around the time khatagate kicked off...



Nabeel says syed riaz shah has made rujoo. That's laughable. Where is the evidence if this and only a few weeks ago he had a problem with slogans raised in the karachi rally. Wheres hanif and his rujoo for the multiple statements he's made. Yet jalali sahib has clarified his stance but all tnis drama to show he's a gustakh.

 

I was hoping that Sh Nabeel might have altered their stance since seeing it first hand on the ground.

 

The rally I think they are referring to is the Multan rally which was a joint one. However, in the same rally was Qari Zawadar and Syed Hamid Raza Kazmi. Shah Sahib were present at the Narawol conference too, so the opposition should not limit themselves to Mufti sahib but should target Shah sahib too in that regard.

Regarding Mufti Sahib's position on Yazid, they clarified this recently saying their position is the same as Ala Hazrat. They also presided over a

I am yet to see or hear any direct or indirect attack on Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah, who themselves need to clarify which camp do they support

 

The rally I think they are referring to is the Multan rally which was a joint one. However, in the same rally was Qari Zawadar and Syed Hamid Raza Kazmi. Shah Sahib were present at the Narawol conference too, so the opposition should not limit themselves to Mufti sahib but should target Shah sahib too in that regard.

Regarding Mufti Sahib's position on Yazid, they clarified this recently saying their position is the same as Ala Hazrat. They also presided over a ruju of another sunni scholar, who had made a speech that was perceived to defend Yazid.

Even if you listen to the individual who is indirectly attacking Mufti sahib, he is not exactly getting backed by the crowd... he is almost forcing it.

 

from the way he said it I assume he is saying that about mufti muneeb sahib. Or as you suggest it could be an indirect dig that mufti Sahib are with those who say this.

only mufti sahib can answer these allegations and they should as well. At the same time the accusers should provide evidence.

But this is a one off rally and even if they did come together for a common cause like our elders in the past that is not same as jumping from the Sunni ship in with the opposition. Or can they show specifically with evidence that mufti sahib no longer endorses hussam ul haramain AND he believes yazid paleed bekasur?

 

https://www.facebook.com/106354737890873/posts/129217295604617/?vh=e&extid=0&d=n

In that facebook video that you linked to, the speaker is purportedly attacking Muneebur Rehman, and in that he talks abt calling yazeed bekasoor.

My question was - who is it that he's referring to who allegedly said yazeed is bekasoor, devbandis or Muneebur Rehman?

 

This reply doesn’t even make sense.

 

not sure but Nabeel Afzal has had a pop at the Karachi rally As well in general.

 

still waiting

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Ok, but where's their rebuttal and the announcement of Sunni aqaid?

Isn't that only an attack on Muneebur Rehman and not the other two (Abdulhaq & Muzaffar Shah's)?

When did Muneebur Rehman call yazeed 'bekasoor'? Or is he referring to devbandis?

Plus, unsurprisingly he played the punjabi vs Karachi card. Disgusting... What has muhajirat or punjabiyat got to do with Sunniyat? Nothing short of vote bank politics of hind.

 

these labels don’t mean anything anymore.

 

they have also been targeted and attacked

https://www.facebook.com/106354737890873/posts/129217295604617/?vh=e&extid=0&d=n