A Sunni Brother sent me this message regarding Mawla Ali

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Imam Hasan Basri relates that two men came to Mawla Ali during his khilafah and asked about khilafah: 'is this an order of RasulAllah ﷺ or your opinion?' Mawla Ali replied: 'it is my opinion.' As for RasulAllah ﷺ making an order about me, then this is untrue. If I was the first to believe in RasulAllah ﷺ then I won't be the first to invent a lie about him. If I did have an order from RasulAllah ﷺ about khilafah, then I wouldn't have let Abu Bakr and Umar ascend the pulpit and I have would waged war against them even if I had no helper besides this cloak I'm wearing.

    The thing is, RasulAllah ﷺ was neither martyred nor did he demise suddenly. Rather, he was ill for many days. The mu'addhin would come and call the adhan and RasulAllah ﷺ would order Abu Bakr to lead the prayer even though I was present before the prophet. Then the mu'addhin would come and inform again and again, RasulAllah ﷺ would only order Abu Bakr to lead the prayer even though I was not absent. And by Allah! One of the blessed wives wished to defer this from Abu Bakr but RasulAllah ﷺ became angry and didn't pay heed to her and ordered: 'You too are like the women of Yusuf. Order Abu Bakr to lead the prayer!'

    So when RasulAllah ﷺ passed away, we pondered over our worldly matters and we chose him for khilafah in our worldly affairs whom RasulAllah ﷺ had chosen for our religious affairs, meaning salah. Because salah is the essence of Islam and what upholds it. Hence, we pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr and he was worthy of it. Not one of us disagreed about it.

    After saying all this, Mawla Ali said: 'So I only gave Abu Bakr his right and considered obedience to him binding. And I joined him and fought in his armies. When he would give me from the treasury, I would accept. When he would send me for war, I would go.

    Then Mawla Ali repeated the very same words about Umar and Uthman.

    [Tarikh Dimashq ibn Asakir, Sawayiq al-Muhriqah ibn Hajar, Fatawa Ridawiyyah, 11:143]

    رضي الله عنهم
  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    is prayer (salat, namaz) a spiritual aspect or something ordinary worldly matter related to 'dominion'?
    we can also frame the question in a different way: what exactly is the importance of prayer in islam? how important is it?

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  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

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  4. Danish Memon

    Danish Memon New Member

    So you mean to say it's wrong and corrupt belief ?
  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    the below post is minhaji speak.
  6. Danish Memon

    Danish Memon New Member

    When I told him that Hazrat Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه and Hazrat Umar Farooq رضي الله عنه has higher status than Mawla Ali رضي الله عنه

    Can someone enlighten me on this? Is this the correct belief?

    Kabhii diivaar hiltii hai, kabhii dar kaaNp jaataa hai,
    Ali kaa naam sun kar ab bhii Khaibar kaaNp jaataa hai

    Shaah-e-mardaaN Ali

    La ilaha illallahu Muhammadur Rasool’Allah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa’ Aalihi Wa’ Sallam). I am Sunni Alhamdulillah and I love Moula Ali (A.S).

    Some Sunni brothers think, Moula Ali (A.S) is only by Shia. People who think in such way, must read the following.

    Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Aalihi Wa Sallam) himself decalared " Mann Kunto Maula Fahaza Aliyunn Maula " which means " One who has me as his master, has Ali (A.S) as his master "

    This was the declaration of Ali’s spiritual sovereignty and its unconditional acceptance is binding on the believers till the Day of Judgement. It clearly proves that anyone who denies Ali’s spiritual leadership in fact denies the Prophet’s leadership.

    Prophet Muhammad ﷺ shared his legacy (inheritence) with only the selected people.

    1. The spiritual legacy of Internal (hidden) sovereignty – This legacy was given to the members of the Prophet’s family
    2. The political legacy of external (manifest) sovereignty – This legacy was given to the rightly guided caliphs.
    3. The general legacy of religious sovereignty – This legacy was given to the Companion’s and the Successors.

    The spiritual legacy of Internal (hidden) sovereignty - This internal sovereignty is the fountain head of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ vicegerency which not only safeguarded the spiritual achievements and hidden blessings of the religion of Islam, but also introduced the people to the blessings of Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ spiritualism. The fountains of spiritual sovereignty, saintliness and reformation originated from it.

    The political legacy of external (manifest) sovereignty - The external sovereignty is the fountainhead of Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ vicegerency which led to the practical dominance of the religion of Islam as well as its enforcement as a symbol of worldly power. It paved the way for the creation of different Islamic states and introduced the Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ shariah as the world system.

    The general legacy of religious sovereignty - The general legacy is the fountainhead of Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ vicegerency which promoted the teachings of Islam as well as the righteous deeds in the Muslim community. It not only helped in the preservation of knowledge and piety among the Muslims but also in the evolution and dissemination of Islamic morality.

    Thus, the three legacies may be summed up as:

    1. The legacy of spiritualism - In spiritualism and saintliness Ali al Murtaza (R.A) was his directly appointed deputy.
    2. The legacy of dominion - In dominion, Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (R.A) was a directly appointed deputy of the Prophet ﷺ
    3. The legacy of guidance - In guidance all his Companions and Caliphs were his directly appointed deputies.

    It means that three forms of permanent study were born out of the finality of prophethood for the eternal propagation of Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ blessings:

    1. Spiritual legacy - The spiritual legacy of the Prophet ﷺ was known as wilayah or wilayat (spiritual sovereignty) and imāmah (spiritual leadership).

    2. Political legacy - The political legacy of the Prophet ﷺ was known as khilafah rashidah (the rightly guided caliphate).

    3. Intellectual and practical legacy - The intellectual and practical legacy of the Prophet ﷺ came to be known as guidance and belief.

    Therefore, the first man of spiritual legacy was Ali al-Murtaza (R.A), the first man of political legacy was Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (R.A), and the first men of intellectual and practical legacy were the Companions (Sahaba).

    The manifest caliph is elected by the people, whereas the hidden caliph is elected by God. The manifest caliph is elected, whereas the hidden caliph is selected. Caliphate makes men just, whereas Spiritual leadership makes them perfect. Caliphate is in effective without crowning whereas Spiritual leadership is effective even without crowning.

    This is probably the reason that caliphate is entrusted to the Ummah, and Spiritual leadership is entrusted to the progeny (Ahle Bayt / family). This is the reason that the first caliph Abu Bakr as-Siddīq (R.A) was elected on the basis of Umar Faruq’s (R.A) proposal and the support of the majority of public opinion. But the election of the first Imam of spiritual sovereignty — was announced by the Prophet (R.A) himself.

    The proof of the caliphate is the consensus of the Companions, the proof of spiritual sovereignty (wilayah) is the declaration of the Prophet ﷺ. One who denies the caliphate in fact denies history and consensus, and one who denies the spiritual leadership (Wilayah) denies the Prophet’s declaration. Therefore, both the caliphate and the spiritual leadership are inescapable realities. What is urgently needed is a clear understanding of the reality of the two institutions in order to present them to the people as unity, and not as division.”

    By means of the declaration — " Mann Kunto Maula Fahaza Aliyunn Maula " Prophet Muhammad ﷺ declared “One who has me as his master has Ali as his master. And by means of declaration “Ali Wali Kum Baadi” Prophet Muhammad ﷺ declared “Ali is your spiritual leader after me”. Thus Prophet Muhammad ﷺ pronounced Ali (A.S) as the opener of the spiritual kingdom (wilayat)

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