According to ahla sunna It is primarily necessary for someone who becomes a Muslim...

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  1. Ghalib

    Ghalib Guest

    certainly, i second what sidi abu hasan says. here are the ahadith which a brother posted somewhere regardin as-sawad al-azam and i'm pasting them here.

    "You have to follow the Congregation for verily Allah will not make the largest group of Muhammad's Community agree on error." Ibn Abi Shayba relates it with a sound chain.

    "Allah's hand is over the group, follow the largest mass, for verily whoever dissents from them departs to hell." Narrated by al-Hakim and al-Tabari from Ibn `Abbas, and al-Lalika'i in al-Sunna and al-Hakim also narrated it from Ibn `Umar.

    "Allah's hand is over the group, follow the largest mass, for verily whoever dissents from them departs to hell." Narrated by al-Hakim and al-Tabari from Ibn `Abbas, and al-Lalika'i in al-Sunna and al-Hakim also narrated it from Ibn `Umar.

    "Verily Allah will not make Muhammad's Community agree on error." al-Hakim narrated it in the Mustadrak (1:116, 177) with a sound (sahih) chain.

    "Verily Allah will not make my Community agree on error" Tirmidhi with a fair (hasan) chain.

    "Verily Allah will not make my Community -- or Muhammad's Community -- agree on error, and Allah's hand is with the largest Congregation." Tirmidhi said: "And the meaning of "jama`a" according to the people of knowledge is: the people of jurisprudence, learning, and hadith. Tirmidhi (gharib) #2256, Cairo ed. `Aridat al-ahwadhi (11:9)

    "Whoever among you wants to be in the middle of Paradise, let him cling to the Congregation."Tirmidhi related it and said it is sound (sahih).

    "My Community shall never agree upon misguidance, therefore, if you see divergences, you must follow the greater mass or larger group."Ibn Majah (2:1303 #3950) Ahmad narrates it mawquf through three sound chains to Abu Umama al-Bahili and Ibn Abi Awfa. Bayhaqi in al-Madkhal narrates something similar from Ibn `Abbas.

    "My Community shall not agree upon misguidance. Therefore, you must stay with the Congregation, and Allah's hand is over the Congregation."Tabarani narrated it with two chains from Ibn `Umar, one of which is sound (sahih). See Haythami, Majma` al-zawa'id, chapter on the obligation to stay with the Congregation.

    "Verily Allah has protected my Community from agreeing upon error." Ibn Abi `Asim narrated it in the Sunna and Albani declared it hasan in his Silsila sahiha (3:319).

    The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: “There was disagreement amongst Jews and they split into 72 groups. In exactly the same way, there will be disagreement and divisions in my Ummah. It will split into 73 groups. Apart from one of those groups, all the remaining 72 will be thrown into Hell.” When asked which group will be on the right path, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) replied: “The group on the right path, which will enter Paradise, will be the group which follows my Sunnah and that of my Sahaba and this will be the largest group of Muslims.” (Tirmidi, Imam Ahmad, Abu Daud, Mishkat)

    The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: “Allah will never allow my Ummah to unite upon misguidance and incorrect beliefs. Allah’s mercy, blessings and protection are with the largest group of Muslims. And he who deviates from this largest group of Muslims will be thrown into Hell.” (Tirmidi)

    "Whoever leaves the Community or separates himself from it by the length of a span, dies the death of the Jahiliyya (period of ignorance prior to Islam)" Muslim (Imara #55) through Ibn `Abbas. Muslim relates it with slight variations through three more chains. Ibn Abi Shayba also relates it in his Musannaf.

    Shaytan is a wolf like the wolf that preys on sheep, taking the isolated and the stray among them; therefore, avoid factionalism and keep to the Congregation and the collective and the masjid."Ahmad relates it through Mu`adh and through Abu Dharr, the two chains being respectively fair [hasan] and sound [sahih] according to Haythami in Majma` al-zawa'id.

    People used to ask the Prophet about the good and I used to ask him about the evil... I said: "O Messenger of Allah, describe them to us [the callers at the door of the fire]. He said: They are of our complexion and they speak our very language." I said: "What do you order me to do if that day reaches me?" He said: "You must keep to the Congregation of Muslims and to their leader." Bukhari and Muslim on the authority of Hudhayfa ibn al-Yaman.

    "Allah's hand is over the group." Tirmidhi (hasan).

    al-Munawi said: "Allah's hand is over the group means His protection and preservation for them, signifying that the collectivity of the people of Islam are in Allah's fold, so be also in Allah's shelter, in the midst of them, and do not separate yourselves from them. Whoever diverges from the overwhelming majority concerning what is lawful and unlawful and on which the Community does not differ has slipped off the path of guidance and this will lead him to hell."

    "Allah's hand is over the group, and whoever dissents from them departs to hell." Tirmidhi (gharib) from Ibn `Umar, al-Hakim both from Ibn `Umar and Ibn `Abbas, and Ibn Jarir from Ibn `Umar.

    "That which the Muslims consider good, Allah considers good." Ahmad in the Musnad (#3599) relates it from the words of Ibn Mas`ud (mawquf) with a sound chain.
     
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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    in our times, it is wajib to follow a madh'hab. and that is the practice of the sawad al-a'azam or the largest group. those who go against it are bidatis and for them is the warning:

    man shadh'dha shadh'dha ila'n naar
    whosoever chose alienation [from the jama'ah], separated himself towards hellfire.

    'certainly' would have been a problematic, but what faqir missed from selma's post is the following clause: 'if they died without repentance.'

    Allah ta'ala knows best.

    ps: the 72/73 groups that are mentioned are likewise, bidyis - wahabis and the la madh'habis are amongst them - and today's la madh'habis have horrific beliefs and i fear many of them hover precariously on kufr and tajseem. may Allah vouchsafe us from such calamity.

    pps: do not be swayed by their outward piety - after all RasulAllah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam warned us against such 'dhiyabu'n fi'th thiyaab' / wolves in sheeps clothing. more on this later, inshaAllah.
     
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  3. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    i'm not one to defend the ghair muqallideen but how can you say that someone who is not following a madhab is "certainly" going to hell !?!
     
  4. selma1

    selma1 New Member

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    AHL AS-SUNNAT
    It is primarily necessary for someone who becomes a Muslim, or for Muslims' children who reach the age of maturity called 'âqil-bâligh, to say the Kalima-i shahâdat, learn its meaning and believe in it. Then, they have to learn and believe in the knowledge written in the books of the Ahl-as-sunnat savants regarding i'tiqâd, that is, the tenets of belief. Then, they have to learn fiqh knowledge from the books of any one of the four Madhhabs, that is, the five commandments of Islam, and they must observe these commandments.

    Those who deny that it is necessary to learn and obey these things and those who do not pay due attention to these points become murtads. That is, after they become Muslims upon saying the Kalima-i shahâdat, they become kâfirs again. The knowledge of i'tiqâd in the four Madhhabs is the same. Someone who follows the knowledge of imân and fiqh of any of the four Madhhabs is called Ahl as-sunnat or Sunnî.

    Belief of those who do not follow one of these four Madhhabs is wrong. They are either Ahl-i bid'at -bid'at holders- or murtads. In both cases, they will certainly go to Hell to be punished in the fire, if they die without repentance.

    While doing something, due to certain excuses, a person coming across difficulties in doing that thing according to his own Madhhab's rules can do it according to the rules of one of the other three. Then, he has to follow all the rules related to this thing in this second Madhhab. It is impossible to act in agreement with all of the imams in all affairs; there are also many cases which prevent one from acting in agreement with three or even two imams at the same time. Such (controversial) affairs should be done by following only one imam.
     

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