Ala hazrat on Pakistan

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  1. if ever evidence was needed that nationality is a bigger unifier than religion this thread is it!
     
  2. Zulfiqar that person is a Sunni hashmati Maulana .. He dared say it because he is a true Indian Sunni ... And if you dare say anything about him, the entire Sunnis will go against you.. Got that ! and by the way it is your Patriotism that is speaking, so I won't mind at all ..! But when you are speaking about a Sunni Aalim-e-Deen , even if you speak something about him, do it politely and with respect.. if Huzoor Ilyaas Attar Qaadri Sahab speaks for the Love of Pakistan and he says that for Protecting His Beloved Nation, he can do anything, of cource he can !! But the thing is I will not insult him or slander him..!

    Got that .. take care ! Give my Respects to your Elders and "Mera 'Aajizaanah Salaam Apne Jagah ke Buzurgaan-e-Deen ko Zaroor 'Arz Kar Dena"

    And do not be rash .. And mind your words ..!

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     
  3. I have told u a source "Bahaar-e-Razawiyyat" and listen to Hazrat 'Abd al-Mustafa Hashmati Sahab.. and he is 200% Hashmati Razvi ..

    And get one thing clear.. That every Sunni of Mulk-e-Sarkaar Khwajah Ghareeb Nawaz Rahmatullah 'Alayh is loyal to His nation ..

    And a question to you sunnistudent is that .. Did Huzoor Mufti-e-Aazam Hind Rahmatullah 'Alayh , Huzoor Taajush Shariah, The Blessed Saadaat-e-Karaam and Ulama-e-Karaam of Marehara, Kichowcha, Bareilly, Ajmer, Pilibhit etc. prefer to stay in Pakistan or Mulk-e-Hind?

    And plz be clear abt. ur post .. where are u rambling? Maoists, deccan muslims, kasmiri terrorists.. how are they related and particularly with this thread..? Wat is ur post meant to prove? That Sunni Ulemas do not support India against Pakistan or That Indian Government is weak..? If it is the former then ur text abt. Govt. being afraid of maoists and stuff have no link to ur post and if it is the latter, then why not u start a new thread to discuss the Govts Power .. where ur Govt. has failed to protect ur "Country from Blasts" which happen almost daily !! what a powerful Govt..

    as I previously said.. I love Pakistan for its Sunniyat .. And I love India for Sunniyat as well as, as my Country to which i proudly say I am Loyal to..

    ALLAH HAAFIZ

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     
  4. zulfiqar hussain

    zulfiqar hussain New Member

    India is the worst country in the world who violates the Human rights,Look at the atrosities in Kashmir.The Molana who has been quoted of saying he would be the First person to Fight Pakistan,well I have news for you If any Indian even thinks or dreams of attacking Pakistan we would make you edit mod [aqdas].

    PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
    DR KADEER ZINDABAD
     
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  5. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    i think u are very wrong. no barelvi will support india against pakistan. U have over 100 separatist groups in india who are fighting against so called shining hindutva land hindostan. hindo banya is the worst human in the world like zionist jews. indian government are scares by maoist rebels, kashmiri mujahedins, deccan muslims, khalistan sikh movement, tamil nadu movement, dalit movement and naxalite movement. indian hindo banya coward is interfering with chaniya policy over all in china. bangladesh, bhutan, Pakistan and sri-lanka. bit they are getting payback now in afghanistan by afghan mujahedin.

    http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpre...h-seize-radioactive-material-at-delhi-market/

    http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/pakistan-rejects-indias-evidence-on-2611/

    http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/talk-to-taliban-with-pak-not-india-in-lead/

    http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpre...ats-india-in-grabbing-eyeballs-at-world-expo/
     
  6. Well bro Asif, this thread may cause undue conflicts and commotions, and also confusions..! So I think my answer to hayaa will suffice her(I do not know whether he is our Sunni brother or she is our Sunni sister!)

    PS- Pardon me if I am mistaken hayaa..!
     
  7. Well i beg you answer some of my simple questions... For some time give abu Hasan and bro Asif a rest and answer some of my very simple questions..

    1) if Pakistan was created for Khuda parasti, is Shariah your mode of ruling?

    2) have organisations like Sipah-e-Sahabah, Lashkar-e-Janghvi, Jaish-e-Mohammad(I hate to call it by this name), Lashkar-e-toiba, Tehreek-e-Taliban made for spreading the words of Sarkaar Ala Hazrat Rahmatullah 'Alayh and Sunniyat and Love for Huzoor Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam..?

    3) How many Sunni Ulemas justify the act of Pakistan based terror groups' method of suicide bombings Jaayiz for Kashmir's freedom?

    4) Go through the CD of "Bahar-e-Razawiyyat", which consists of speeches of Huzoor 'Abd al-Mustafa Hashmati Sahab, who had claimed that he would be the very first person to fight against Pakistan if pakistan took as much as an inch of India's territory.. if you want to know him I will personally pack of the CD and send to your Dawlat Khanah if you want ta confirm.?

    5) Mind your words before you post or text.. . "All
    of the Indians you see are Deobandies" As if Bareilly Shareef and Ajmer Shareef are in Pakistan, and Taqi usmani, and Mullah Fazlur Rahman are from india.
    If majority of India is Deobandi, how awfully mistaken you are..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barelvi

    Read the "Presence" section and confirm, who is majority and who minority!.

    And also The Grand Mufti as officially announced in India is Huzoor Taajush Shariah Daamat Barkaatuhumul 'Aaliya and that of pakistan is Mufti Rafi Usmani, an open wahhabi..

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darul_'Uloom_Karachi)


    Pakistan interests me not because you present these absurd datas.. But for the Great Awliya-e-Karaam Hazraat That Rest there, For the Dawat-e-Islami, For the Great Sunni Ulama-e-Karaam, for Sunni Tehreek, who have Engaged themselves in a True Jihaad against the Wahhabis, for Hazrat Muhammad Saleem Qaadri Shaheed, for the Punjaabi Manqabat and Naat, for the Khush Aqeedah Sunnis that reside their who have still managed to protect their Aqeedah from the terrorist wahhabis, and Say "YA RASOOL ALLAH SALLALLAHU 'ALAYHE WASALLAM" with Pride and With Their Heads Held High..

    I have my Love For ALLAH 'AZZAWAJAL, My Master SARKAAR-E-MADEENAH SALLALLAHU 'ALAYHE WASALLAM for Whom Every Drop of Blood of My Body is FIDA, and for AHL-E-SUNNAT WA-AL JAMA'AT whose Proud AHL are You (Hayaa), Abu Hasan, Noori, Aqdas, Aasif, Qaasim, 'Abd al-Wadood and the Sunni members of Sunniport..

    A request to the mods I think Hayaa has got all his questions answered. This thread, i find is causing, or might cause a conflict between the Sunni brothers and sisters. I request the mods. to plz close this thread. Let the fight of nation not creep in, and deviate us from our main mission.. The "Mission of Spreading Sunniyat to the Entire World"

    MASLAK-E-SARKAAR A'ALA HAZRAT RAHMATULLAH 'ALAYH ZINDAABAAD
     
  8. I thought there was no separation of politics and religion in Islam? i.e. everything is a matter of the Deen?

    ;-)
     
  9. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

  10. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran


    you can post without attacking the character of other members
     
  11. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    What a pathetic reply! A middle-school leaver would be able to reason better.

    For long you have been ranting why Maulana Akhtar Raza says nothing about situation in Pakistan/Kashmir/NWFP. Tell you what, Maulana Akhtar Raza has nothing to do with Pakistan. He didn't start the fire there, nor is Pakistan his courtyard. Nor is he a rent-a-quote molvi with an itch to pronounce opinion on every going-on of this world.

    In any case what can be solved by expressing ones view on matters related to this region or that region. For long has Palestine been the topic of rousing speeches, but what has come of it?

    Your juvenile prattle is getting out of hand. If you are a Pakistani, you don't have to thrust your jingoism on everybody's face. Expect those who are not Pakistanis to tell you as they see it from outside. Brother abu Hasan made some telling comments, some (with blinkers) got offended but nj acknowledged that aH had stated some home truths. Elsewhere aH has dwelled on cheap accusations by Pakistanis on Indian muslims and ulemas.

    Indian maulanas have no favour to curry by supporting or opposing Indian government in this act or that. If they speak vocally against an issue, nothing is going to change except for vitiating the situation and making life worse for Indian muslim populace. I did make this issue clear in another thread.

    Doesn't western media accuse the muslims clerics of turning blind eye to terrorism and of not publicly condemning every act of terrorism? Only we muslims know how deeply flawed and unreasonable is this demand by westerm media. Sadly hayaa and her likes (even though they should know better) employ similar stupid reason to condemn Indian ulemas. Fie on such people!

    I wish Pakistan was a state that all Muslims could be proud of. I wish Kashmiris had right to self-determination (free from the hypocritical support from Pakistan and oppression of India). The current state of Pakistan saddens me immensely (probably more that it does most Pakistanis themselves) and I wish things were better.

    I have little to say to hayaa and her inane posts. She is beyond grasping anything. I'll let her wallow then in her own world.

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    P.S.: May I request Wadood not to respond to my post.
     
  12. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    great reply by Haya tp Abu Hasan.
     
  13. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    how long have you lived in india or indian kashmir sister hayaa?

    can you list which maulanas of india are government funded?
     
  14. hayaa

    hayaa Guest

    Kashmiri Muslims are treated worse than dogs in India. Azad Kashmiri in Pakistan is wealthy. Every house is new. Every day Muslim children are killed in occupied Kashmir at the hands of Indian army. Kashmir is the most militrised place in the world. Give Kashmiris their freedom. Ameen.

    Why don't Indian maulanas say anything about this zulm. Will their funding stop from government?
     
  15. hayaa

    hayaa Guest

    Pakistan was created for Khudah parasti. Bangladesh for watan parasti. India for baghwan parasti. This is why Bangladesh was traitors. India is now become TV prast.

    Pakistan is the leading Muslim country and has preserved its Muslim identity more than any other Muslim country. There are more poor Muslims in India than Pakistan.

    All of the Indians you see are Deobandi. Most Pakistanis are Sunni apart from the kharijits in NWFP and they are being finished off.
     
  16. Why does pakistan, who loves Indian Muslims so much, send their militants, terrorise us .. and run off. And why So many muslims of India too are blasted off.

    On Sunniport, it is best to talk on Matters of Deen alone, leave politics. Do not worry about us (indian Muslims), we are in the Amaan of Huzoor Khwajah Ghareeb Nawaaz Rahmatullah 'Alayh .. Atleast we the not Muslims who killed and bomb-blasted by namesake Muslims (talibanis) themselves. And we, inspite of being in India, are a lot safer than in Pakistan, where at one side we have the fear of being blasted off by taliban and on the other side by sipah-e-Kharabah and lashkar-e-janghvi if u openely say that u are a Razavi..

    Leave this discussion here itself..

    Turn to the matters of Deen.
     
  17. maulanax

    maulanax Active Member

    okay lads lets just call it a day, i never wanted this argument and ive already got the answer to the question i asked! thanks
     
  18. maulanax

    maulanax Active Member

    lool ibn ali!! what are you talking about??
     
  19. Ibn.ali

    Ibn.ali Active Member

    maulanax you are crossing limits in your Mulkparasti and your shaksiyatparsti of the Jin.

    Recite Aytal Kursi before this Jinn Haa overpowers your deen.
     
  20. stop trolling the board maulanax!
    the terrorists are wahabis -- no one said the kashmiri people are wahabis!
    if the terrorists didnt finger the indians they wouldnt respond in the barbaric way u expect from those urophiliacs! so blame the wobblers and their political masters. if u mess with a scorpion dont be surprised if it stings u!
     
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