Allama Jalali Sahib Qibla & other ulama unite

Goes to show there was no reason to retract in the first place if people won't let it go regardless.

Also if people act like it was a sin because of your retraction, then it's just created confusion in the minds of some people.

 

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Qari Tayyib Naqshbandi

 

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Nabil, Barakat, and Wali Raza share their thoughts

 

very strange—these ulama spent two to three years preparing multiple versions of dr. jalali sahib’s ruju, yet they did not find the time to issue a single, consolidated statement that clearly presents the correct aqidah and openly refutes the misunderstandings spread by shias and tafzilis. who, then, will explain to the awam what the correct belief is and what it is not?

i am concerned that these same ulama may now approach certain individuals, seek forgiveness on behalf of dr. jalali, and treat them as if they have not committed any deviance. they would be accepted as sunnis without any unified demand to do taubah and fully recant their earlier tafzili or rafidi positions.

 

which means the pakistani government and military is hijacked by enemies of religions - zionists, trump's bootlicker army-chief, the hedonist sharif family and their backers: qadianis, rawafid and the "liberals". that is why they ruthlessly shot sunni public.

may Allah ta'ala humiliate all of them.

 

exactly, but they never will, because they are threatened and forced to remain quiet, while shias, tafzilis, and even qadiyanis are strongly backed by the government, especially by the establishment. you don’t hear these stories because the media is forced not to air them.

 

Rather than this, they should have come together and outlined that this has only been made an issue by ignorant Shia and that hanif qureshi and Co are clowns that are outside of the sunni fold. If they can get together for a statement like this, they can get together for other statements too

 

Fair play to Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah for their role in this.

Their main mufti I believe signed the letter too.

That's a fair point as is @AbdalQadir point about the timing of Jalali Sahib's 'retraction'. What he has done is exactly what senior scholars told him to do literally days after the issue was first raised.
Overall, it's a positive step and although it Tafdhlis have been left to run amock, they are also isolated and can't simply use the Jalali sahib issue to peddle their hidden rifd.

 

anyone know Abdul Haq Qadri saab and Amjadia (KHI) reaction to all of this?

 

when the issue first surfaced, other people told Jalali too - just say something (similar to what he said now) and get it over with rather than waste awam's time.

when Shaykh Ilyas Attar said "har sahabi-e-nabi jannati jannati" - the closet rawafid ran out of their closets, fuming in fury (including hasnain shah) - and all the closet rawafid made a big song and dance out of it and dug up nuances on 'they're not ma3soom, Huzoor 3alaihis salam too reprimanded some sahaba on some errors etc etc" - seeing that his aim of smoking out the closet rawafid from their holes was achieved, within a week or so, Mawlana Ilyas nicely said something along the lines of - halanke is naare/jumle par koi Shar3i girift nahin hai, agar kisi ko aisa laga ke yeh aqaid-e-Ahle Sunnat ke khilaf hai to hum is se gurez karenge - something along those lines - and moved along (it's on youtube, sorry didn't search now; probably the video is linked on the forum too)

now Jalali has made a fool of himself and Noman Jalali too.

in any case now that Jalali has "retracted" - will iran shah and the rest of the tafdili bunch sit for a cross examination on Sunni aqaid regarding sahaba?

the only excusable pressure i can think of is perhaps he's under threat from the military! otherwise, at this point in time, he's given a season pass to iran shah!

لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم

 

so why did munib-ur-rahman sahib not refute iran shah, haseenuddin shah, and the other tafdili individuals who created such a big fuss about it and even did takfir of dr. jalali? why did these ulama not demand a retraction of their false takfir from these covert shias?

totally agree with sidi aH— these ulama should have defended the principles rather than trying to save an individual. they have effectively given a green light to shias and tafzilies to continue spreading their heresies.

 

Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman said clearly that there was no Shari fatwa put on him but was a gateway to some confusion and internal strife. Nabeel again has got it wrong but no words of advice for his shaykh.

 

Hmm. Disagree with a couple of things in here. Not sure why Muneeb is there. Also they basically say that although nothing wrong was said, he still shouldn't have said it as it's caused a problem amongst the sunnis but... It just caused problems with the closet Shia or people influenced by them. Wonder if there's some kind of pressure being alluded to that's led to this though...

Nabeel is an idiot with comprehension issues. Claims jalali said his statement was invalid and false but he literally said it wasn't even in the retraction video

 

i don't know what made jalali sahib to 'retract' now, what compulsions and threats made him do that - but we are not blind followers of jalali or anyone else. we don't care what others do - we stand by principles, and positions based on knowledge.

everything we said - we stand by it. the statement of jalali does not warrant takfir, nor is it wrong.

nabeel is a jahil and he needs to repent from being a blind follower of his shyakh. iran shah either a neem rafizi or falls in the category of "shaytanun akhras" mute shaytan for condoning rawafiz/shia and/or obliquely disparaging sahabah.

let him first apologise and become a sunni. and explicitly disavow all the shia positions that he condoned and the jahilana "ilmi" mistakes in attacking jalali.

this deen is nobody's property - least of all turncoats like irfan shah or the now dead abdul qadir shah or the other tafzili naseeruddin.

 

yes, so when will nabeel's guru, iran shah, issue a public tawba from his rifd?

 

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