allamah arshad's opinions and disgust

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  1. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    Adnan Rashid thinks Asrar is on the way of the salaf. What does Basir make of that?
     

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  2. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    well said @abu Hasan. It is a shame that you have to spell it out for @basirqadri786 because for one that was casting aspersions at the logic of others, I am amazed that he is unable to see the fallacy of his conclusion to the statement made by the deo. He seems to have issues with the Shaykh or just wants to create some drama. There was no need to restore to this thread because @basirqadri786 has made a baseless point, which is why he started discussing other issues where again his lack of logic came to the fore. His comments just smack of blind hatred and should not be entertained further. This is a forum to discuss issues not to slander scholars (especially those who have done more than most to defend the sunni creed) and cause mischief.

    I remember there was a video where it was said that Dimisqiyah praised Shaykh Asrar's Arabic. According to @basirqadri786's logic we will have deduce that Shaykh Asrar has become Salafi or at least have doubts. The mind boggles at this folly.
     
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    the post was deleted as it appeared to be a confusion and frayed tempers. and just to bury the matter.
    but we have restored it.

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    without the harsh words employed by brothers who might have been irritated, i would tell brother basir that: 'ek tarfa maHabbat se kuch nahin hota'

    initially i thought yasir was mawlana asrar's Haqiqi brother (he DOES have a brother by name yasser) and i was puzzled. then i clicked the links and landed on deo's pages.

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    unless mawlana asrar responds in kind - why should he be suspected of anything? certainly, he cannot cast a jinx on his name and make it a taboo that only friends can call him brother - as in a 'you-know-who'? or give us a solution to stop 'other' camps calling him a brother or praising him or his effort.

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    think about it again; and notice that the thread and this repeat post is certainly not in your favour.

    if you still think that your post is misunderstood - help us understand: what makes you think shaykh asrar sahib has gone over and for you to deduce that:

    wa billahi't tawfiq.

    ps: you revived it yourself.
     
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  4. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    why do you care for what a deobandi says? you must think he is a truthful person ...
     
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  5. basirqadri786

    basirqadri786 Banned

    my post too was deleted on Asrar Rashid and Deobandi Mohammad Yasir al-Hanafi

    here is what Deobandi Mohammad Yasir al-Hanafi said

    https://www.facebook.com/shaykhmohammadyasir/posts/1269888209723043

    Mohammad Yasir Al-Hanafi shared Asrar Rashid's post.
    October 20 at 11:28pm ·
    Few days ago, I saw a video of the Rafidhī Ammar al-Khabees maligning the two noble Shaykhs, Hadhrat Abu Bakr & Hadhrat Umar [may Allah be pleased with them]; the video infuriated me when he imputed them with spurious claims of extremism. Allah knows how upset and angry I was.
    By the grace of Allah, today, after seeing this post of my brother Usthādh Asrar Rashid, I was so happy that I gave so many Duas from my heart.
    Yes, we have differences amongst us, but we will all agree that when the likes of Shaykhayn and the noble Sahabah-may Allah be pleased with them all-are being attacked by coprophagy of the mud of the west, who are not even equal to the dust on the feet of these noble people, then we can overlook our differences; and our Imān requires that we worry regarding how we can stop such filthy rhetoric being attributed towards the Sahabah.
    May Allah give victory on the tongue of Usthādh Asrar, and enable him to obliterate the feeble rhetoric of the Rawāfidh. Aameen.

    #SahabahArePartOfOurImān
     
  6. Bazdawi

    Bazdawi Well-Known Member

    i am sure places like al azhar teach their students not to be so ill mouthed.
     
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  7. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Kindly just check out from any reliable Sunni Mufti whom you trust how is it to call ANY Muslim "Abu Jahl". Furthermore, what if that person is a scholar, not a jaahil.

    will wait for the fatwa............

    May Allah ta'ala guide us all.
     
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  8. Adham12

    Adham12 Active Member

    You said this a while back. Take your own advice.
     
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  9. Isaac Amini

    Isaac Amini Active Member

    Shaykh Abu Hasan
    Feel free to delete that thread. The brother Agent-X has done enough to show his corrupt ways . It serves no purpose now. I have gained benefit from seeing how some can operates and in future I will not take what senior people write for granted as there is potential they will be twisting things.
    I'm not here to score points.
     
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  10. Arshad ul Qadri

    Arshad ul Qadri New Member

    Where is the thread in which saeed was being attacked over a sunni stance by a bunch of Juhala and yahudi style molvis?
     
  11. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    looking into mirror?
     
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  12. Waqas Qadri

    Waqas Qadri New Member

    سبحان الله

    How the truth within has come out.
     
  13. Arshad ul Qadri

    Arshad ul Qadri New Member

    "too seek to diminish..." What clear jahl, not to mention what an insult to great Ash'ari scholars stating this from amongst their igtilaaf and with their clear proofs. But noo.. moderater "abu jahl" knows it better, its an attempt to diminish the status of the Holy Prophet Peace and Blessings be upon him!!

    Adab? Its not against Adab to refer to a molvi with his name, especially when its a working method used in old books of scholars. It depends on Niyyah. I mean how stupid can you be talking about Adab, and then next facilitating the sins of others on the forum with Fisq. Or is this your own Shariah you use on fisqport?

    Of course if you facilitate these Fisq and leave it upon the unislamic base they are "entitled to it" you are blameworthy. Or are you of the opinion you are a Prophet and can exempt yourself from this rule? Not to mention to masquerade it as "anger". So this is Halal according to you. Your whole forum is filled with almost insults, and unbased accusations.

    The nifaaq is that a simple message like this was deleted by some corrupt fasiq, and on the other hand major Fisq are left. Not to mention to make it Halal as merely "anger" and facilitating it under the pretext "they are entitled to it".

    Tfoo Tfoo....

    In All honesty, your working style is like a yahudi by facilitating these to obscure sunni valid stances as demonic which in fact are respected and Hasan in the court of Allah. And only cause differ with your own naqis Mutala'ah which is nothing. Hence you see it and accuse them of "to seek to diminish...." How stupid can you be?

    And samewise at your request..... "No".

    Try taking a course of proper reading and do Zikr so that Takabbur and Nifaq style moderating may leave your heart.

    FYI these Haram acts are not things that makes someone a heretic or almost a heretic. Its your total ignorance that makes you take this bid'ah stance, unless you are a mutazili fasiq?

    Don't forget to set up a trophy award according the style you work by....No class no style, working style of a jahil.

    You are worthy of the nick "Abu Jahl". I hereby award you this trophy!
     
  14. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    you posted the below twice and i deleted it. you see, everyone is entitled for their righteous anger. it is difficult to keep everyone happy.

    aameen.
    but you asked a while ago:
    merely deleting your post makes you indignant and the person who deleted the post is almost a heretic or fasiq [corrupt?] - it is devilish wasawis and ego and sin.

    but a stance that is contrary to major sunni ulama - and widely considered to be THE NORM of sunni aqidah - and that too that seeks to diminish the greatness of his prophethood, sallALlahu alayhi wa sallam...you wonder whether it is that off-putting that we ask Allah ta'ala to give guidance to those who are against our position?

    sub'HanAllah.

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    the first two times, i deleted this post as i found it amusing. who is this 'saeed'? are you referring to mawlana saeed asad? if so, it is telling that you should be teaching adab.

    and your majesty, can you point out which personal attacks? give us a list of posts identifying 'personal attacks'? if you are talking about agent-x and brother isaac, i have moved it to another thread to keep this thread focused on discussing the issue; if i delete that thread, brother isaac may feel that we are biased. of course, you will not see these things from your high horse.

    of course.

    what are you talking about? hallucinating again.
     
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  15. Arshad ul Qadri

    Arshad ul Qadri New Member

    Together with a complaint, there is a corrupt moderator who assists in Munkar and keeps deleting the following naseeha to Maruf. May Allah protect him from the devilish wasawis and grant him strength to overcome his ego and sin. May Allah guide him.

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    Can the moderator erase all personal attacks towards saeed, which are based on biased reportings and uncertain sources.

    Its wajib to keep a Muslim brothers dignity. its a shame this kind of sleezy tactics are allowed here when suddenly someone differs in Furu with someone of this forum.

    May Allah guide them and protect them from sinning.
     
  16. Arshad ul Qadri

    Arshad ul Qadri New Member

    Can the moderator erase all personal attacks towards saeed, which are based on biased reportings and uncertain sources.

    Its wajib to keep a Muslim brothers dignity. its a shame this kind of sleezy tactics are allowed here when suddenly someone differs in Furu with someone of this forum.

    May Allah guide them and protect them from sinning.
     
  17. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    won't.
     
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  18. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    didn't understand your cryptic questions. learn to write legibly and attend a course on how to write clearly without ambiguity (if there is one).
     
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  19. Arshad ul Qadri

    Arshad ul Qadri New Member

    Can the moderator erase all personal attacks towards saeed, which are based on biased reportings and uncertain sources.

    Its wajib to keep a Muslim brothers dignity. its a shame this kind of sleezy tactics are allowed here when suddenly someone differs in Furu with someone of this forum.

    May Allah guide them and protect them from sinning.
     
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  20. Arshad ul Qadri

    Arshad ul Qadri New Member

    It doesn't matter who it is addressed to.

    Just answer the question.
     

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