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What would you say about this abu Hasan?

Wisdom for the life...

People are two type;
1. The ones who believe that everything has been done for them by God and they came to this world to get that.
2. The ones who believe that God gave them all what they need to make this world as they wish.

First group are hopeless, helpless, passive elements of the society who are nothing but burden.
Second group are that optimistic, energetic, active elements of the society.

God doesn't send you a spouse, wealth, knowledge, house, income and job from the sky as he sends a rain!
If you want a spouse then do everything to attract him to you!
If you need a wealth then work hard!
If you need a knowledge then find a genuine teacher and memorise and analyse what he teaches you!
If you need a job then learn a profession!
Don't wait for everything to come to you thinking that it's pre-decided for you!

Build your future by your own hands!

Seems like rejection of Qadr and what does he mean by "do everything to attract him to you"?

 

the author is himself sufficiently retarded and a murid of shaytan to be 'coerced' to say such things. it is much more plausible to say that he might be paid by enemies of islam to say such things.

wAllahu a'alam wa ilmuhu atam

 

that is in case of aberrations. meaning, one or two such statements are reported of that person. in which case, husn-zann is exercised; caution is exercised, and as we are all humans and prone to make mistakes - consideration made for errors made unwittingly.

in case of a repeat offenders - donkeys like atabek, who has been braying like that on his facebook page - you are free to exercise your husn-zann, but i believe that such scoundrels should be publicly humiliated to prevent foolish and ignorant muslims from picking up such filthy ideas. this is neither the first time that atabek has said such a thing, nor that is it incredible to believe that he has said it. he and his followers have been making such statements publicly and without any shame.

نسأل الله العافية

please don't apply fatawa of 150 years ago to situations in the internet age. either you should completely discard every information - or suspect every information posted on the net, unless it is verified by two witnesses in all cases. in any case, if the donkey releases a statement on oath, swearing in the name of Allah, that he did not post it, i will delete my statements below.

actually, your point has some merit - compared to another person's ravings on our forum, who refuses to accept a speech (obaidullah khan's) even after obaid himself confessed to it; and this was signed by a number of muftis whom he himself respects and affixed with a stamp of a well-known institution. apparently, this is 'information on the internet'. or the case of tahir padri and his circus at wembley. done in presence of thousands, relayed live on tv, and none of it denied by jhangvi-dajjal or his followers. yet, people ask us whether we have undeniable proof.

we live in this age where all the husn-zann and consideration is reserved for abominable heretics and their heresies - and none whatsoever for those who enjoin the correct aqidah and call towards the path of the salaf.

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sub'HanAllah.

 

Text/speech may be falsely ascribed; the author may have been coerced etc.

Video footage may have been manipulated/forged; coercion etc.

Based on this is it not incumbent, where dealing with Internet material, to avoid concluding "person/donkey x is kafir" etc., but rather suffice with e.g. "to say or believe such and such is disbelief", " the one who says or believes such and such needs must be a disbeliver" etc.?

 

the donkey is a filthy kafir for brazenly calling hadith as lies.

atabek the donkey says:

al-iyadhu billah. it is a mutawatir hadith. the hadith of shafa'ah. just because the donkey cannot understand, he insults hadith and ulama of hadith. yet, his mindless retarded followers/admirers get offended, when i call him a donkey. actually, someone should ask the scoundrel how much he gets paid for spewing all this filth. the murtadd is just a modern day mirza-qadiani.

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the hadith, the scoundrel made fun of is in saHiH muslim: (a proverb in urdu goes: the donkey knows no difference between saffron and hay)
it is one thing to 'explain' these hadith - and entirely another to make fun of them and call them lies.

the only thing that is worse than a deluded donkey is a mutakabbir donkey.

kitab al-yiman. #368.




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bukhari, kitab al-tafsir, surah bani israyil,



nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah.

 

if the donkey (of course atabek the zindiq, who else!) is talking about sunni ulama - muhaddithin and fuqaha - the donkey should have the courage to name them. instead of vaguely braying about how the salaf caused his heretic forefathers, the mutazilah, to die a humiliating death.

this cheap, third-rate donkey, who is not even articulate, thinks he can revive those heresies. not so fast donkey-man.

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once, a donkey strayed into a palace full of gold and diamonds. the donkey said, nice looking hay. and tried to chew them.
when it couldn't chew or swallow any of these, the donkey began to bray. "hee-haw. hee-haw. hee-haw".

translation of the brays: "there is nothing useful here. all of it is hard as stones. looks like people here have no taste."

(of course, both atabek the donkey and his little dunayki don't need translation. the translation is for our brothers).

 

sorry, nobody blamed a donkey for not getting an education. atabek the donkey should get an education - but frankly, who will be foolish enough to take up the task of teaching a donkey?

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zindiq. mutazili. qadar denying donkey. that is what atabek is.

 

the blasted donkey brays again.

a deluded donkey imagines itself to be as strong as a lion, as clever as the fox, a keen eyesight as the eagle, as nimble as the deer and as quick as the cheetah. it even imagines itself to be as sweet-singing as the nightingale.

dream as much as it can, a donkey can only bray.

and atabek is a deluded donkey.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1068825343160541&set=a.140346649341753.21337.100000992557139

 

Astagfirullah, there is a woman sat with 2 men, it seems like her hand is near his arm too, what kind of "Shaykh" is this?

 

from the article linked in post #24:

he doesn't seen to know the pronunciation of mu'tazilah and probably thinks it as some form of a mozilla browser.
but leave that silly thing aside, everyone makes mistakes in proper names they are not familiar with; but what i found stranger was his claim that MOST of qur'anic commentaries are by mu'tazilah.

sub'HanAllah, this is a serious allegation.

here is a list of tafsirs that i have collected: how many are mutazilites?

 

these people are really con-artists. I know atleast one youngster who got taken in with their tripe.

something I came across: https://asharisassemble.com/2014/02/05/what-really-holds-muslims-back/

and immediately I was reminded of what that young fellow was harping on about. a robot couldn't have done better!

 

blah blah blah.....

just about every dajjal of the times claims ancestry to the Prophet 3alaihis salam, or a great sahabi, or a great wali, or a great polymath scholar

and/or

being a gifted child and having memorized the Quran at the tender age of 7 / 9 / 10, etc. and completing studies in the traditional sciences at 19 or 20

and/or

dropping names of the various other real or bogus scholars they supposedly studied under and obtained a ton of ijaza's from. even a mere greeting or a two hour attendance in a shaykh's lecture is enough to drop names and make grandiose claims of attaining an ijaza from the shaykh*

and/or

is almost always the founder of some "institute"

and/or

is also almost always a larger than life character who is good at a few duniyawi disciplines as well like a kung fu champion, or ping pong enthusiast, or an avid speed walker, a nature painter, an alternative medicine specialist, a successful entrepreneur, a literature and arts connoisseur with a deep understanding of shakespeare, and dante's influence on chaucer, an ubuntu specialist, a linux freak, a mac enthusiast, etc. ---- the list goes on (i remember how paqs' official website once amusingly reported he's a weightlifting expert who once lifted a 160 kgs of something, and that he works out profusely. can't find that site, but yanobody still has that description)

and/or

more.... tahir for instance has studied at the feet of Imame A3zdham and apparently receives daily blessings from Ghawthe A3zdham in the world of dreams, has narrated what 50,000+ ahadith and authored a 1000 books (only 400 published so far, 600 pending, as per his website), the dead n rotten nazim took bay3at at the hands of Imam Mehdi in the spiritual world... etc.

all about painting the picture of a perfect hero that sheeple will drool over

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*see the latest news reports on the fake degree scandals in indian politics to understand this phenomenon better. smriti irani apparently claimed a degree from a university for merely taking a week-long refresher course on something. it was quite amusing as i heard that and correlated it to afroz ali's intensive education in egypt that lasted a mere few weeks
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this is what happens when dumb sheeple take the hiked up internet biographies and resumes of liars at face value.

i'd advise all such sheeple to work in HR for a few years, just so they understand just how much people lie on their resumes and hike up their work experiences, and then crumble like a house of cards in a face to face interview from someone who knows his job. they can get a lot of valuable insights into the bios of such "shuyukh"

 

He is not a deobandi. He is against what he calls "modern Hanafis" (barelwis and deobandis).
He claims to follow "the classical Hanafi school" in Fiqh, "official Maturidi school" in Aqeedah
and is seen by himself and his follower as "the reviver of Hanafi Mustalah".

 

Atabej is a deranged dog for the statements he made in that screen shot, May Allah protect us from Dajjals like him.

A while back I remember having a discussion with him on fb about the Hanafi position on the beard, when I quoted the position of A'la Hazrat (Allah bless him), Mr Atabek completely sidelined any quotes by A'la Hazrat or any information from any sites connected to A'la Hazrat. This was the first pink elephant in the room that showed this guy is anything but sunni since his got what seemed like deep rooted animosity towards the great Imam.

 

result of deobandi fruits

Atabek lost his mind and becomes mentally deranged

look at his knowledge

http://www.deenfort.com/refutations/deobandi/mr-atabek-claims-ibn-hazm-was-an-ashari/

Sheikh Atabek Nasafi, one of the foremost scholars in Europe

Sheikh Atabek Shukrov Nasafi: Born in Uzbekistan while it was still part of the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics, or as we called it here, the ‘USSR’ Sheikh Atabek Nasafi began his religious studies at the age of ten, in secret, which was the only way the heritage of a land which produced such luminaries such as Abu Laith As-Samarqandi, At-Tirmidhi, Imam Al-Bukhari and Imam Abu Mansur Al-Maturdi, to name a few could be preserved during the Communist era.

He completed his studies aged 21 in various subjects including Arabic Language, Hadith, Fiqh, Tafsir and Tajweed at Madrasa Abul Qasim and Jamia Islamia in Uzbekistan. Thus, he was already considered a scholar when he arrived in the Middle East for higher studies.

Along the way he studied under an unusually eclectic series of teachers, including Uthaymeen, Anwar Badakhshani and

By 1998 he was residing in the historic city of Damascus where he continued his studies with some of the finest scholars of our time. Enrolling on the four year Al-Ijaza Al-Alimiyya programme at the Takhassus Institute affiliated to Al-Azhar University Egypt, his studies included: Sharh Ibn Aqeel with Sh. Atiyya, Sharh Fiqh al-Akbar with Sh. Adeeb Al-Kallas, Lubab fi Sharh Al-Kitab (also known as Quduri) with Sh. Abdullah Rabiah, Aqida with Sh. Saeed Ramadan al-Buti, Risala Qushariyyah with Sh. Abdul Fatah Bizm, Hadith with Sh. Sadiq Darwish, Da’wa with Sh. Tawfiq al-Buti as well as intensive private lessons with Shaykh Muhmd Adnan Darwish and covered Fath Bab Al-Inaya and Muwatta of Imam Malik. He also studied Shudhoor al-Dhab, Sharh Qatr Al-Nidah, Thufat Al-Mureed and Mukhtasar Al-Bukhari with Shaykh Rushdi Al-Qalam.

He graduated in 2003, spending the final year at Al-Azhar University, gaining certification from the Faculty of Theology and Philosophy. He went on to teach in prestigious universities across the Middle East before gracing these shores.

He is the founder of the Afiya Institute and Academy which seeks to promulgate authentic traditional Islamic teaching in Europe and is also affiliated with the Deen Institute which is an English apologetics and Dawah organisation.

Shaykh Atabek supervised one of his student’s translations of The Initiation of Abu Laith As-Samarqandi and its commentary.

Intriguingly, Sheikh Atabek is also a herbalist with a chain of teachers stretching back to none other than the iconic Ibn Sina.

 

Astaghfirullah! Ya Allah! This person is mad!

 

a3udhu billahi minash shaytanir rajeem.

atabek's lost his damned mind!!!

 

And it continues

 

atabek's explanations and ramblings remind me of this.