Did Imam Al-Ghazali meet Shaykh Abdul Qadir al-Jilani

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    this is a truly moving account of the tremendous difficulties that this man of Allah had to go through for almost as long as he lived. It throws into spotlight the corrupting influence of the dunya on men of all dispositions - the vile dunya - which when a person falls into its strangle hold, subdues him into a trance-like captivity and plays him, even as a skilled puppeteer dances his charges - not to the gates of some fantastic heaven but to the embers of a blazing fire - then men become beasts who fear neither God nor humans. All ties, whether of kinship or humanity, get swept way before their all-consuming madness. Many never recover from this malady until death relieves them of it.

    May Allah (The Hafidh) protect us from the dunya.

  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    The Man Behind The Armor

    wonder where he got this from:

    and he conveniently forgot to mention that the great Sultan was a Sahfi in madhhab and a Qadiri in tariqah.

    so once again it shows that to prove themselves to be an authentic continuation of the ahlussunnah the wahhabis will have to re-write history on a massive scale. And they are more than willing to do that.
  4. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Salah al-Din and Syrian Assassins

    From that time, Ismailis, who turned into a small and powerless sect, were scattered across different regions of the Middle East and lived in isolation. Also many Ismailis, looking for a safe life, moved to India. In India, where, to date, we find the biggest Ismaili community, started the modern Ismaili history. Activities of modern Ismaili Imams Aga Khan II and AgaKhan III resulted in creating a strong basis for recent Ismaili studies. Contemporary Ismaili ImamAga Khan IV, who is living in France, continues the work of his predecessors and succeeded in popularization of Ismaili studies and Ismailism in general.
  5. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    this one is just awesome. written by non-muslims whose main aim is to enlist the causes of the crusaders' defeat at hattin, it can reasonably be assumed to be non-partisan.

    It brings out the personality of salah-al-deen as a pious and just ruler, a skilled and fearless fighter and a clever strategist - a bane for his enemies.

    It also portrays the stark contrast between him and the other muslim rulers of the time. Their greed and hunger for power and lack of even an iota of concern for Islam and the welfare of muslims in general.

    Another important fact recorded in the above is the ever-duplicitous nature of Shias. From Karbala to Cairo, they have always acted as traitors and turn-coats. Allah (The Maalik) will bring the lot of them to justice on the day of Qiyamah.

    Besides, it contains several MAJOR lessons for the ummah, not the least of which are the lethal consequences of disunity.

  6. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Saladin & the Saracens

    The battle of Hattin, 1187

    Greatness which even the enemies attest:

    The Knights Templar were at the front-lines in the war with Islam. A 'holy' order, 'god's own militia' with unlimited riches and unstoppable power, answerable to no one but the pope. Europe's first standing army since the fall of the Roman Empire.

    But Allah (The Almighty) checked them through Salah-al-deen (rahimahullah):

    ". . . against an enemy of a reputation and skill as Saladin, it was fatal"

    The Sultan struck the knell for them at the battle of Hattin. And they never recovered. A recompense for their deeds:

    ". . .brutally tortured and mercilessly killed by the very masters for whom they fought."

    "some people believe that they were burnt at the stake but actually they were cooked over a slow fire....a most unpleasant business"

  7. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    Hazrat Molana Mohammed Shafee Okarvi al-Qadri R.A. says in the translated lecture on Shaykh 'Abdul Qadir Jilani R.A. in the book "Discourses of Love":

  8. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    There are some other interesting connections between Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani (RadiAllahu Anhu) and other mashaikhs.

    Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani (1077-1166 CE) & Shaykh Shihab al-Din Suhrawardi
    (1145/1155-1191 CE):
    Shaykh Shihāb al-Dīn Suhrawardī's mother was childless and she approached Ghawth al-Azam and requested him to pray for her to bear a child. At this the Shaykh made a prediction about a very special son for her. According to another assumption, Shaykh also suggested the good name of the child as Shihab al-Din Umar. I have even heard (not sure if it is true) that the child was born a girl (instead of son as Sayyidna Ghawth had informed of); so Shaykh Suhrawardi's mother took him to Ghawth al-Azam, on whose touch the child turned out to be a boy!

    Shaykh Shihab al-Din's uncle Shaykh Abu al-Najib Suhrawardi had khilafat from Shaykh Abd al-Qadir. Shaykh Shihab al-Din Suhrawardi wore the khirqah-e-khilafat from Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani in 1162 CE. According to Qalaid al-Jawahir, Shaykh Shihab al-Din Suhrawardi attended the majalis of Shaykh Abd al-Qadir who said 'O, Umar! you will be well renowned in the later saints of Iraq.'

    see here & here for more details.

    Interestingly, Shaykh Shihāb al-Dīn Suhrawardī was a student of Shaykh Majd al-Din Jaili (who in turn was a disciple of Imam Ghazali). Imam Fakhr Al-din Razi (1149-1209 CE) was also a student of Shaykh Majd al-Din Jaili.

    Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani (1077-1166 CE) & Shaykh al-Akbar Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi (1165-1240 CE):

    As is apparent from the above dates, they never met in their lifetime. But Shaykh Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi was born only through direct blessings of Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani. See details here.

    Shaykh Ibn Arabī met with Shaykh Shihāb al-Dīn Suharwardī (who was personal advisor to Caliph al-Nāsir, subject of my other recent post). In this meeting, they stayed together for a while, with lowered heads and departed without exchanging a single word. Later Ibn ‘Arabī said about Suharwardī: “He is impregnated with the Sunna from tip to toe” and Suharwardī said about Ibn ‘Arabī: “He is an ocean of essential truths (baḥr al-Ḥaqāiq)".

    Shaykh ibn Arabi's main disciple and step son Ṣadr al-Dīn Qūnawī (1207-1274 CE) was a contemporary of Mawlāna Jalāl al-Dīn Rūmī (1207– 1273 CE). Mawlāna Rūmī in turn met another famous mystic Persian poet Farīd ud-Dīn ‘Attār (1145-1221 CE) in Nishapur, who immediately recognized Rumi's spiritual eminence.

    Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani (1077-1166 CE) & Shaykh Baha ud-Din Naqshband Bukhari (1318–1389 CE):

    They never met during their physical lifetimes; but Shaykh Baha ud-Din Naqshband received spiritual blessings from Sayyidna Ghawth al-Azam. When Hazrat Amir Kulal tried to imprint the word of Allah on the heart of Hazrat Baha al-Din, he couldn't despite repeated attempts until he faced Baghdad. Another variation of this story can be found here.

    Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani (1077-1166 CE) & Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti (1141-1230 CE):

    They met in Baghdad (see more details here). According to few sources, they were distant cousins (which I'm not sure is true).
  9. Masha Allah great contributions by brothers. I really did not know that Hazrat Salahuddeen Rahmatullah 'Alaih was a Qadiri! But did Imam Ghazzali Rahmatullah 'Alaih meet The Blessed Ghawth-e-Paak Radiallahu 'Anhu?
  10. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    Sultan Salahuddin al-Ayyubi R.A.'s sword

    In the 2005 edition of 'The Validity of Saying Ya Rasoolullah Sallalahu 'alayhi wasallam' contained in 'Thesis of Imam Ahmed Raza R.A.' (published by Imam Ahmed Raza Academy, South Africa www.raza.org.za ), in a translator's note Hazrat Molana Abdul Hadi al-Qaadiri mentions that Hazrat Sultan Salahuddin al-Ayyubi's sword which is in the Topkapi Museum in Turkey has engraved on the one side the Kalimah and on the other side YA SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR SHAYNILLAH. Hazrat Molana Abdul Hadi also mentions that Hazrat Sultan Salahuddin al-Ayyubi R.A. was in the Qadri Silsila.

    I should think its on the sword's blade.

    Mazaar of Hazrat Sultan Salahuddin al-Ayyubi is outside the Grand Ummayyad Mosque in Damascus, Syria

    Inside Mazaar: http://www.nooremadinah.net/Islamic...Shrines&TotalImages=62&ImageNumber=39&CatID=8

    Short biography: Hadrat Sultan Salah ad-Din Abu al-Afdal Yusuf ibn al-Ayyub Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anho: http://www.ahlesunnat.net/media-library/downloads/regularupdates/sultansalahuddin.htm
  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Are you talking about the handle?

    On the steel blade, it would not be right, as the sword's blades would see a lot of blood. Dunno...
  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Afaik Sultan Salahuddin conquered Jerusalem when he was 23. So at least the numbers are adding up.

    I don't know about the rest of the stuff but it's a big possibility. Ghawth-e-A3zdham had a great strategic thinking to revive Islam and he sent top murids to different lands with the mission of propagating Islam to kafirs and also to spread its true teachings cleansing the many distortions that crept into the ummah.
  13. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    This is what I remember. Sultan Salahudin was a Qadiri. He was a murid of Sayyiduna Ghawth al-Azam's son -may Allah bless us with their true love - who was sent to the Kurdish people. His maqam is situated in that very region now. The Sultan's sword has the Kalima inscribed on one side of the sword and on the other side the name of Ghawth al-Azam radiAllahu anhu. It is possible that most soldiers in his army were also Qadiri disciples.
  14. Brother, what is your source for this extraordinary claim?


    Saladin :rahmatullah alayhi: 1137/1138 – March 4, 1193 (Source: Wiki)
    Ghaus e Azam :ra: c. 18 March 1077 - 15 January 1166 (ibid.)

    As you can see their lives did overlap but I am not sure if there is any historical evidence they met. If they did meet it would have to have been in the first 28 years of Saladin's life as he was 28 when Ghaus Paak passed away. If they met in the spirit Allah and His Habib صلى الله عليه وسلم know best.

    Would love to see if any other brother can add to this.
  15. ahlus-sunnah

    ahlus-sunnah Veteran

    'Assalamualaykum, Does Anyone know if Hazrat Imam Al-Ghazali (Rahmatullah Alayh) met Ghaus E Azam Shaykh Abdul Qadir al-Jilani (Rahmatullah Alayh) physically or spiritually because both of their Murids fought in the Army of Hazrat Salahuddin al-Ayubi (Rahmatullah Alayh) ?

    Over 50% of the Army of Hazrat Salahuddin al-Ayubi (Rahmatullah Alayh) were Murids of Ghaus E Azam Shaykh Abdul Qadir al-Jilani (Rahmatullah Alayh) and the rest were Murids of Hazrat Imam Al-Ghazali (Rahmatullah Alayh)

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