Fabricated Narrations in Fatāwa Ridawiyyah?

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    to anyone who's not a veteran of the forum - the above lines if seen together, are not to be construed that the accursed qadianis are being counted as Ahlus Sunnah or Ahnaf, ma3adh Allah.

    that article by the jahil khariji non-Sunni author, abu suhaib, was merely linked to be fair to him that he too considers qadianis kafir like the rest of the ummah does.
     
  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    imam ibn humam, in addition to being an erudite imam was also a man of lofty character, worship (dhikr, ibadah) and zuhd.
    a clipped piece of a nail from imam ibn humam's little toe on the left foot, would weigh more than 24 of this rubbish aDall (non-arshad).

    hazrat ke nakhun ka wazan toh hai hi,

    suffice it to say that he was a student of both ibn Hajar and al-ayni. and ibn jama'ah and qari al-hidayah. and waliyuddin iraqi, the son of shaykh al-islam zaynuddin al-iraqi among others.

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    but a lightweight (halka) fellow from pakistan thinks he is better than imam ibn humam.
     
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  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    the moron cries a river (of jahl murakkab) in this book. some samples

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    barking like a mad dog against anyone from our desi devbandi cousins to Ahmad Yar Khan Naeemi to Ibn Nujaym to Al-Qari to Ibn Humam, to Ziya3la all the way up to Imam Abu Hanifa himself. attacking anything from 20 tarawihs to Hidaya to Fathul Qadeer to Durr Al-Mukhtar. it's a given he'll spit venom against Ala Hazrat too in his upcoming pile of nonsense!
     
  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    don't go that far. other than sahih bukhari and sahih muslim (some have objections on some narrations even there) most of hadith corpus including muwatta malik and the rest of the top six works [i.e. sunan al-arba'ah = tirmidhi, abu dawud, ibn majah, nasayi] have dayif hadith.
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    what about musnad imam ahmad? let alone weak, imams like ibn al jawzi and al iraqi criticised few narrations (about 29) as forgeries! though ibn hajar reevaluated them and tried to prove that they were utmost weak - in his al qawl al musaddad.

    https://archive.org/details/AlQaulAlMusaddad

    as for weak hadith in musnad, no one disputes that.

    these are not books of fatawa or maw'yizah, where weak hadith can be cited as shawahid - these are core hadith compilations!

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  5. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Let me guess, all the objections would be easily defeated by answers fitting into any of the following:

    1. They'll say a hadith is weak but turns out there's a dispute as to whether it's weak or not by classical scholars
    2. Some of the hadith may be weak but are strengthened by other narrations
    3. Weak hadith are fine to use for certain purposes in any case, like encouraging people towards good
    4. There may be a fiqh point being made with several hadith of several different classifications with the weak hadith on the subject strengthened by the authentic ones but all of them being laid out and used for the purposes of providing a more robust argument
    5. A genuine mistake

    If so, such objections could be (and probably have been) compiled against Al Ghazali, Al Razi, Al Asqalani and pretty much every other genius the ummah has ever produced.
     
  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    https://forum.mohaddis.com/threads/دین-الحق-باجواب-جاء-الحق-تالیف-ابو-صہیب-محمد-داؤد-ارشد.10390/

    Apparently he wrote a 2 volume "refutation" of Jaa Al Haq.
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    Some of his books on the same site- https://kitabosunnat.com/musannifeen/abu-sohaib-muhammad-doud-arshad

    Something he wrote against qadianis - https://archive.org/details/awwlaeen-fatwa-by-dawood-arshad

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    So it's clear he's not just anti-Ala Hazrat, he's antagonistic to Ahlus Sunnah and Ahnaf overall.
     
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  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

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  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    More than likely it's dumb desi wahabis.

    I looked for the publishers "Suhaib Academy" from Sheikhupura (a wahabi hotbed in punjabistan) and got only this one site mentioning them - https://kitabosunnat.com/kutub-library/taqabil-e-adyan-o-masalik

    They seem to be a petrodollar well-funded wahabi operation, given their standard animosity against Imam Abu Hanifa and Ahnaf, and the fact that they've uploaded so much so fast and have an Urdu shamela project.

    Like most post-modern wahabis, they're anti-devbandi too fwiw.

    All this assuming this Suhaib Academy is directly linked to this website maslak-wise.

    I've noticed that desi wahabis are far more antagonistic and extreme towards Hanafis than actual Arab wahabis themselves, as well as much greater nafsanic juhalaa... chai se zyada ketli garam! It still cracks me up how one mardood mairaj rabbani (indian from MP, so no one thinks I'm biased only towards punjabistani deviants) actually declared some of ibn taymiyyah's positions as bid3ah and actual najdis had to rein him in!

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  9. Oowais Qassim Ali

    Oowais Qassim Ali Well-Known Member

    I asked the Person who Made the Original Post, He said he'll send me once he gets it
     
  10. Mohammed Nawaz

    Mohammed Nawaz Corrections are always welcomed with appreciation

    Many people have written books criticizing the weak and da'if narrations in Imam Al-Ghazali's Ihya Ulum al-Din. However, observe how it holds a unique and unparalleled position that few other books can claim. Also what became of those who criticized and wrote against it.

    Devbandi's are like those who spit at the sky. Soon, their spit will fall back onto their own faces.
     
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  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    looks like homeless tramps spitting at the sun.

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    is there a digital copy available. curious to see what the wretches are up to.
     
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  12. Oowais Qassim Ali

    Oowais Qassim Ali Well-Known Member

    Devbandis Published a 3 Volume Work Criticizing Fatawa Ridawiyyah

    It's being said that there now needs Tahqeeq & Takhreej of Fatawa Ridawiyyah being done

    *اب بتائیں فتاوی رضویہ پر کام کی ضرورت ہے یا نہیں ؟*
    *اگر آپسی لڑائیوں کو چھوڑ کر اس پر دھیان دیا ہوتا اور فتاویٰ رضویہ پر ہی کام کیا ہوتا تو یہ دن نہیں دیکھنا پڑتا اب ایک کی جگہ ڈبل کام لگ گئے ہمارے ذمے ، پہلے تو فتاویٰ رضویہ کی تخریج و تحقیق کرنی پڑے گی اس کے بعد اس کتاب کا رد لکھنا پڑے گا پھر جا کر معاملہ اہلسنت کے حق میں ہوگا اب تو دیوبندیوں وہابیوں کے ذہن میں یہی ہوگا کہ فتاویٰ رضویہ موضوع و ضعیف روایات سے بھرا پڑا ہے ،* *مختصر یہ کہ آپ احباب اس حوالے سے مشورہ دے اور آپ اس حوالے سے کیا خدمات سرانجام دے سکتے ہے دین کی خدمت کیلئے ، ضرور رابطہ کیجئے گا .*
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