fonts etc. for self-publishing

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  1. Juwayni

    Juwayni Veteran

    As Salāmu ʿAlaykum Wa Raḥmatullāhi Wa Barakatu everyone,

    Mawlana Abu Hasan, there's actually an open source alternative to those DTP apps that apart from the occasional instability is considered to be a reasonable replacement. Scribus.

    Moreover, I found a font that may interest you that uses the OFL license allowing for modification. Cormorant, attached a sample of how it looks.
     

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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    indesign and quarxpress. professionals choose one of the two (usually).

    there used to be aldus pagemaker in the ancient times which became adobe pagemaker and finally laid to rest.
    for those who are are not really looking for cutting-edge features microsoft publisher is also passable.

    with creative cloud from adobe, indesign is affordable now.

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    as for us, we take the shortest route - we compose in word and port it to PDF.
    the output may not be stellar, jaw-dropping, eye-candy - but we hope it is decent.
     
  3. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

    What software would you recommend for publishing? MS Word?
     
  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    do you mean the sakkal majalla font we use? in my experience, it is an elegant font - and the license is convenient for us.

    https://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1755
    http://www.sakkal.com/type/majalla.html

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    however for qur'an fonts, either you can use the older glyph method by downloading 604 fonts:
    hint: each font corresponds to the page of the prevalent madinah-mus'haf; you need to figure out which key is associated with the corresponding glyph.

    https://github.com/quran/quran.com-images/tree/master/data/fonts

    if your browser converts the ttfs to html extension, download this zip file [appx 57 MB ]:

    https://github.com/quran/quran.com-images/archive/master.zip

    extract the fonts folder in the zip file.

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    and if you are content with naskh etc. fonts, you can download both the formatted mus'haf and the font from king fahd quran complex:

    http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/?page_id=608
    http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/?page_id=42


    honorifics
    this is the font you can use for honorifics:
    http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/?page_id=244

    see the glyphs corresponding to the keys on this page: http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/?page_id=486

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    for high quality printing, the mus'haf page-wise can be downloaded in AI (illustrator format) and TIFF here:

    http://dm.qurancomplex.gov.sa/hafsdownload/

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    feel free to add more resources:

    http://quran.mursil.com/Web-Print-P...Fonts-and-Downloads/fonts-optimized-for-quran
     
  5. ahmad786

    ahmad786 Active Member

    Just a side point, the letter seen often appears mashed and the yaa saakin is too close to the succeeding letter in Ridawi Press books. You might want to change the font to something a bit more cursive, say PDMS Saleem or Traditional Arabic which is available in Word.

    Anything in Urdu/Persian will appear well in Attari Unicode ( available on dawateislami website)
     
  6. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    btw, i don't work for adobe. but if you use their tools - fotoshop, illustrator, indesign etc, their licensing has become very affordable with the CC 2015

    https://creative.adobe.com/plans?
     
  7. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    if you are looking for running text, some free fonts worth considering (some are very good if your text doesn't have diacritics)

    alegreya
    eb garamond
    crimson text (character set limited - our use of these glyphs are missing in this font ĥ ā ī ū á í ú ý ñ ż ş ţ đ )
    neuton
     
  8. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    this has been on my mind for a while - thought of sharing with brothers/sisters who are publishing works, designing books, book-covers, posters etc.

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    among other things is a choice of fonts. i hope brothers using fonts are aware of these issues and assume that they have already purchased those fonts. remember that even if they are available for download on various sites [which could be illegal], you cannot use them unless you have purchased a license to use that font. moreover, there are licenses and pricing vary across foundries.

    https://www.myfonts.com/licensing/ebook/
    http://www.fontspring.com/ebook-fonts
    http://www.fontsquirrel.com/faq

    there are a number of fonts that i like, but we haven't used them [in ridawipress books] as they were not feasible for our projects. many good fonts are expensive, and come with restrictions on number of copies, versions, modes etc.

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    instead we use free fonts that come bundled with software we use; or open-source and royalty-free fonts. try google fonts; a good article with samples and links can be found here.

    some of the finest fonts for running text are:

    - sabon
    - and sabon next
    - minion
    - and minion pro
    - bembo
    - erato
    - quadraat
    - itc galliard

    others like baskerville, may look good for english texts, but i didn't find it pleasing with diacritics for transliterated words.

    and who can forget trajan! in spite of its overuse and ubiquity, it remains a favourite.


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    adobe has the most convenient licensing scheme; via both their creative cloud and typekit for fonts.

    https://typekit.com/plans
    https://typekit.com/fonts

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    my understanding of the service is that once you get a subscription, you can download the fonts on your desktop (sync'd) for use in your apps (MS-Word, etc.) and you can also embed them in PDF. no further royalties of per-use licenses are required for such PDFs with embedded fonts which can be distributed.

    you can also use these fonts in photoshop and other apps to create posters, infographics, book covers and what-have-you. i think a portfolio plan, $50 a year, is quite convenient for us. [for example, if i purchased minion pro - i would need at least four fonts: regular, regular italic, bold and bold italic, which would cost us at least $140 and it is still not clear to me whether i can use it on all our titles as one statement in their EULA/TC mentions restriction on 'titles' though unlimited no. of copies and versions of the same title...]

    some links - for further exploration.

    http://help.typekit.com/customer/portal/articles/1341590
    and the specific item on the page: http://help.typekit.com/customer/portal/articles/1341590#sync-lic

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    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1238078 (check dov's response who is a staff member)
    http://www.adobe.com/products/type/font-licensing/licensing-faq.html
    http://www.adobe.com/products/type/font-licensing/additional-license-rights.html
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2015

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