"Hadrat Abu Bakr is Afdal" says Mufakkir-e-Islam

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  1. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    jazakallah abu nasr for your post.
  2. Abu al-Nasr

    Abu al-Nasr Guest

    I heard the whole speech yesterday.

    I do not really feel like analysing it until I go through each evidence used fully by Shah Ji. However, I did feel there was too much self-gratification and self-praise throughout. Infact, if we take out the praise parts and the remainder half-hour or more on a different topic, we end up with about half an hour of relevant lecture.

    What I found funny was how Shah Ji was praising his Arabic reading skills, suggesting his uniqueness among Urdu speakers in this field. I have personally known many, and i mean MANY, 'ulema who not only read Arabic much better than Shah Ji but also speak very well. I found some errors in his reading which I will not post as it will increase fitna.

    I also find it strange how he seems to be enforcing on the listeners that someone claimed rejecting the afDaliya of Abu Bakr (ra) is Kufr. Who says that? Has anyone ever said that? I was under the impression that it was claimed that it was Bid'ah.

    He says he wrote a 600 page book on the issue. It would be good if this book would be made available online. If they are serious about putting this issue to an end then the spread of the book would surely do a better job. If it is an Urdu translation of Ghaya al-Tabjeel by Mamdooh, then that would truly be a waste.

    Allah knows best.

    PS: It was great to know that Shah Ji accepts the afDaliya of Abu Bakr (ra) and informed his mureeds that whoever follows him should accept that also.
  3. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

  4. Abu al-Nasr

    Abu al-Nasr Guest

    Thank you Muhammadi for the upload. Do you know how this can be downloaded with out signing up to YN?
  5. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member


    If you or any other can refute his dalail then I'll be the first one to leave him and subsequently shut down www.QadiriJilani.com. Moreover, he mentions in the above lecture that if anyone reasonably disproves his mauqif, he will retract it and apologise in public.

    Now is your chance; present all your dalail in this thread and I promise you I will show them all to the Sayyid and request a response.

    P.S.: the mentioned lecture occurred in Luton, not Walthamstow.
  6. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    How about Mufakkire Islam also declare that believing Imam 'Ali raDyAllahu 'anhu to be afDal to Sayyiduna Abu Bakr raDyAllahu 'anhu is a non-Sunni aqida and against the ijmaa' of the Sunni elders.

    When will we hear that from Walthamstow?
  7. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

    Here is the latest video of Mufakkir-e-Islam Hadrat 'Allamah Dr. Pir Sayyid 'Abdul Qadir Shah Sahib Jilani in relation to the issue of afdaliyyat and mufadalah. He unequivocally affirms the afdaliyyat of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr Siddiq (radiyAllahu 'anhu) thus dispelling the recent [pir/jama'at politics based] rumours of tashayyu', rifd and tafdil.

    'Allamah Dr. Shaikh Sayyid Muhammad bin Yahya Ninuwi is also present amongst other leading 'Ulama & Mashaikh-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat.

    This event took place at the
    Hadrat Siddiq-e-Akbar Conference in Jami'ah Islamiyyah Ghauthiyyah Trust, Luton, UK on the 25-06-2009. Here is the original advertisement.<o></o>
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