hamza fawning over nasr

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  1. Shadman

    Shadman Active Member

    My gripe with this is grouping meat with processed foods. Processed food is relatively new compared to eating meat which has been going on for centuries. Meat

    On a side note, being a vegetarian(or rather being a pescatarian) is probably wiser if you live in a western country. There are huge issues with meat mass production from bogus halal labels to unethical treatment of livestock. In fact you can't even trust the meat in Saudi and other gulf countries. Many restaurants over there will use imported meat from Brazil or Mexico.
     
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  2. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Vegetarianism is bad for you anyway.
     
  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    In fact, one of the reasons the verse enter into Islam fully was revealed was because Sayyiduna AbdAllah b. Salam abstained from camel meat due to his Jewish past. It wasn't even fard for him to consume it but it was being made clear, you are now Muslim so don't hold onto past persuasions, so Hamza needs to stop appeasing kafirs.
     
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  4. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    He is an utter idiot. What about in the time of Hazrat Ismail Alaihi Salaam when meat was the core diet? And where does Islam state that one must be a "semi vegetarian"?

    Coming to his speech is he prepared to issue a verdict on a vegetarian who accepts Islam and refuses to eat meat considering it to be "morally incorrect" to do so? The Prophet ate meat period, so what is the ruling on such a vegetarian convert who considers it incorrect to eat meat?
     
  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Besides, he's just being sneaky with words as usual and pandering to vegans and hindus. There's no such thing as a semi-vegetarian.

    What does semi-vegetarian even mean - that 50% of your diet is meat? That means you're a non-vegetarian and a meat eater. (Reminded me of zameel who doesn't lie, but rather only issues untrue statements)

    Guess its the semi-Muslim in him speaking!
     
  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

  7. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    I'm surprised Tahir ul Padri isn't there amongst them!
     
  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    mashaAllah they're getting all ready for Ramadan

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  9. Kattar Papa

    Kattar Papa New Member

    Multi Faith Prayer....
     

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  10. Mehmet Sekil

    Mehmet Sekil Active Member

    has he forgotten it was his forefathers who colonised america that subsequently led to the protestant carnage across the globe.

    why does he not mention this barbaric tradition?
     
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    abu Hasan Administrator

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    Kattar Papa New Member

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  14. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    What the "imams" of western academia are all about IMG_20220215_184724_395.jpg
     
  15. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    He's (walid saleh) a kafir dog and a munafiq.

    Read this "peer reviewed paper" and count the blasphemies!

    https://www.academia.edu/39655290/M...3_Surat_al_Zukhruf?email_work_card=view-paper

    Don't think I'm behaving like indian police, just shooting a guy (metaphorically) in "encounter" with takfir without running the due course of the Shariah law (to achieve the same result through the right approach).

    I ask any Muslim with Noorani Qaida level knowledge of Islam and same minimal level of shame and decency to please read that paper and see if I'm being unjust and trigger happy with khariji style takfiring! (Just try to spot the utterly disrespectful sarcasm and blasphemies in the first few paragraphs for a start)
     
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  16. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    berkley center at georgetown university seems to be quite the cesspool for mixing religion with western academia and brewing kufr

    read about their building bridges seminars here

    https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/projects/the-building-bridges-seminar

    these seminars are frequented by tim winter, maria dakake, caner dagli and the other contributors of the study quran and mark's super duper shia friends like reza shah kazemi, and so on

    download and read the proceedings of the 10th seminar themed 'prayer: christian and muslim perspectives', read 'A Muslim Response to Christian Prayer' by caner dagli (he pretty much shares joseph lumbard's views on trinity)

    https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/publications/prayer-christian-and-muslim-perspectives

    i don't know if mark hanson has participated in these seminars, but he's also been to the berkley center (he also said no group takfir in response to a qadiani's question at this same venue)

    https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/people/hamza-yusuf
     
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  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

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  18. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

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  19. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    What a foul-mouthed devil!!
     
  20. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    "essays" in the study quran and their authors (continued):

    The Quran and Sufism - by william c. chittick
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Chittick
    https://www.williamcchittick.com/ (don't be misled by excessive name-dropping of Ibn Arabi and Rumi; the guy has shiite-perennialist thought just like nasr)

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    The Quran and Islamic Art - by jean-louis michon (deceased 2013)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Michon
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    The Quranic View of Sacred History and Other Religions - by joseph lumbard
    (see post # 7 for his intro and a blatantly kufriya comment from this essay)

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    Quranic Ethics, Human Rights, and Society - by maria massi dakake
    (see post # 7 for this hijabless shia lady intro)

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    Conquest and Conversion, War and Peace in the Quran - by caner k. dagli
    (see post # 7 for intro to him)

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    Death, Dying, and the Afterlife in the Quran - by mark hanson (aka hamza yusuf)

    search the entire forum for his shameless comments. this essay is just another exercise in utterly shameless equivocation and somewhat of an expansion and rehashing on his old "Who are the Disbelievers?" piece as well as his other cacophonies. for example:
     
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