Hamza Yusuf on The Study Quran

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  1. Khanah

    Khanah Active Member

    As some of the posters on this forum know the ulema personally or through others, can someone please bring the video to the attention of shaykh Murabit's son who currently lives in Spain, I believe? Shaykh Abdur Rahman.

    Hamza Yusuf fans will not pay any attention to general criticisms of him but if he can get specifically refuted on this particular point by Shaykh Abdur Rahman on video, showing Hanasa Yusuf to be a liar- then that would be far more widely accepted and useful for the community than someone not connected to him at all. The laymen might get dazzled by Hamza's eloquence and make a thousand excuses for him but when he is shown to be a complete liar, they will be far more likely to turn away from him. If the likes of shaykh Asrar refuted this, he'll just be preaching to the choir. If the son of the man being quoted by Hamza refutes him on this exact point, it will cause him huge problems and go further, I believe.
     
  2. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Well-Known Member

    Here Hamza is saying it is ijma' that other religions are abrogated


    Yet he also misquotes Faysal al tafriqa
     
  3. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Well-Known Member

    I watched the video in question- Hamza Yusuf Hanson has gone towards using illogical ta'wilat to save his perrenialist friends from takfir. This ta'wil is itself kufr.

    There is no ijtihad in daruriyat al din and what the perrenialists espouse is pure zandaqah not any ta'wil ba'id.

    Furthermore what hamza Yusuf attributed to Sayyidi Murabit al Haj قدس الله سره is nothing more than a lie
     
  4. Ibn Hadi

    Ibn Hadi Ya Ghaus e Azam Dastageer

    He can continue to weasel his way out of kufr but honestly seeing the path he's been on for the last 15 years.....it won't be long before he just outright says even atheism is fine and Hell isn't real.

    May Allah guide him. Sometimes it seems as if the mid 1990s HY has been replaced by an evil copy.
     
  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

  6. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Well-Known Member

    Respected brother Abdal Qadir asalamu alaikum

    Before I start, I'd like to say I am anti-Hamza Yusuf Hanson. I am a murid of Taj al-Shari`ah. I've been at the forefront in the efforts of trying to get Hamza to repent from his perrenialist leanings and other kufriyat/bida`at spoke/written by him

    Yet as Sh. Asrar and others rightly said, we do iHtiyat in takfir. I advise that you not refer to him as a kafir without the advice of Ulama of Ahl al-Sunna, all of whom consider Hamza astray and bidi` and as one holding kufr beliefs but refrain from specific takfir.

    Remember Sayyidi Alahazrat Imam Ahmad Rida rahmatullahi alayh wrote the following:

    "We prefer the opinion of Kalām scholars in these matters. And thus, do not do takfīr of a person as long as he does not deny or reject any necessary aspect of religion; or considers such a denier to be a Muslim." (see
    Izālatu’l Áār bi Ĥajri’l Karāyim án Kilābi’n Nār, p.10.)

    It is because Hamza comes up with many colorful ta'wilat that we are forced to remain silent in terms of takfir.
     
  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    mark hanson is a dajjal, kafir and a shaytan.

    nothing he says about Murabit Al-Haaj qaddasa sirrahu can be trusted because he is a shameless bald faced liar who lies and spices things up to suit his narrative. like the brother commented on facebook, the late Shaykh's (rahimahullah) son's testimony is enough against this perennialist.

    i was expecting this - playing the tawil card, because his misdeeds are now catching up with him, and he needs a way out.

    i didn't expect him to say directly: be careful with pre-modern tafseers :) so what he's really saying is - read only modern or post-modern tafseers by ismaili and yahood funded maniacs in western academia (or modern colonial shills in the east like sir syed ahmed khan).
     
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  8. Aqdas

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