Inqilab From Bullet Proof Bomb Proof Cabin - Dr Tahir ul Qadri

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  1. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    What I find vey odd about TUQ is that he seems to keep making grand entrances and returns to Pakistan every few months and causing a commotion. It wasn't that long ago he returned for the march......then he slipped away and now making another return and getting people to gather and act as if its the start of an Arab Spring type revolution and a dictator has to be toppled.

    Looks very ego filled to me especially after there were recent elections which his party could have participated in. If he thought the masses were with him he would have won but he doesn't want to participate in elections but then calls for democracy. Is he actually saying the whole electoral process is corrupt and only he can fix it??? That seems very far fetched to me to say the least.

    A few years ago he made a big play to be leader of all muslims from a religious viewpoint only.......that failed so now he has gone into politics and trying to be leader there. I suspect the end result will be the same this time too.
  2. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    when his leader is the biggest liar of them all, what can you expect from "sunnimuslim".

    when he can lie about the holy Prophet, he can lie about Shah Sahab:

    this is a mentally sick narcissist who fabricates hadeeth, quotes them out of context, inserts lies into hadeeth, just to prove that the holy Prophet "allowed shirk" .

    I will not be surprised if the judicial commission finds out that it was PAT members who fired on the rally and police, to create a situation from which to gain political mileage. they are very much in the news now, and that was the first goal.

    murtad Tahir has done this before: do anything just to be in the spotlight - including but not limited to:-

    1. spraying goat's blood on his walls and then registering an FIR against Nawaz Sharif: the court then declared him "a mentally sick liar".

    2. sitting in air-conditioned, bullet proof bunkers for some days; whilst his supporters were literally dying of hunger and cold. vowing to change the constitution, and changing his stance every day, then shaking hands with Zardari when the deal was done. all this LIVE in front of cameras.

    3. talking to Musharraf (when he was president), during a press conference, on his mobile phone - at a time when all mobile phone networks had been suspended. he was caught doing this on camera, live.

    4. tearfully donating ALL his family jewelry to MQI in front of cameras - SEVERAL TIMES in the past 7-8 years!!!!!

    and the damage that this dajjal has done to the ahle-Sunnah faith, is really enormous.
  3. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    When the nation needs to be united against the war on TTP and wahhabis, the opportunistic and corrupt politician, murtad Tahir is hell bent on putting the whole nation in a turmoil only for his cheap fame.

    He is trying to fool every one with a so called Inqalab. Inqalab comes by example. Sitting in Air Conditioned containers and travelling in First Class Shame on him - all this on money that was given to MQI for zakaat and orphans and widows.
  4. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    falling for tahir is falling for the group of dajjal.
  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    supporting tahir for campaigning against corruption is like supporting america for campaigning against dictators

    Sunni "ulama" of all people, should know better!

    they might as well support israel for campaigning against the iranian shias!

    alhamdulillah that sincere Syed Sunni ulama like Shah Sahab (i have written confirmation from his very close students of prominent scholarly families, who study at Darul Uloom Amjadia) , and others like Maulana Kaukab Noorani are not involved in this fitnah.
  6. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    Exactly brother Kattarsunni. You are 100% correct. But you what is a sad thing. Many sunni scholar who supports his agenda can be martyred now. I fair that because this will only lead anarchy and at the end a civilwar. May Allah protect our Sunni Ulamas from all kind of fitnas. It is a tough for sunnis in Pakistan.
  7. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Brother sunnimuslim! The current issue with Tahir Sahib is not an issue of creed, as you very well know. However the Ulama who are supporting him for his political stance are making a mistake which will have grave consequences.

    That is because Tahir Sahib is a political opportunist. If he sees benefit in a cause he attempts to lead the way and others follow along. But once he has finished with this campaign, and that is when there is no popular support, he will move to other things.

    The current fight against corruption in Pakistan is the objective of many sincere people. Tahir Sahib is rallying support for himself by leading or attempting to lead the campaign against injustice.

    The Ulama who support him have fallen for this trap. Rather they should start their own movements and organizations, muster their influence. If they do not do so now, when Tahir Sahib is finished with this political campaign he will influence his new found crowd in issues of creed and deviate them.
  8. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    u are a nalayk and battamiiz human. That show your true colour. If you want to talk personal i will be personal. But if you want to talk on issue than i will talk with on issue. U seem more and more like a kharji. Not a sunni. Because sunnimuslims never talk this way. I have talked about this issue with a brother. And his sound was totally different than your sound. This is best for you and me.

    His answer was this:

    Walikum Assalam Bhai jan Humhan Tahir ul Qadri Ki parti Ya unky logon se koi masla ni hai.. Par Tahir ul Qadri Sahab Se Bohat Ikhtilaf hai.. ye iktilaf kham hona chai hai q k waqt ka takaza ye hai k Sunni ek hojaen par usky liy Tahir ul qadri Sahab ko Ahlesunnat Akabir Ulma se ja kar mafi mangni hogi aur gustakhi wo kar choke han us ki Tuba karni hogi .. mery khayal se Ap Tahir ul Qadri Sahab ki bakwas gustakhi se wakif ni han agar wakif hote to esi baat ni karte.. Iswaq Ulma E Ahlesunnat Tahir ul qadri ko sunni ni mante.. nahi Qadri

    This is the way to talk with people. Not how you sound.

    My Pir o murshid Hazrat Chann Pir Sarkar. So be careful beforyou judge people next time.
  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    you said in post # 7

    anyone who supports dajjal tahir is out of Sunniyat, doesn't matter who he is.

    you sound more and more like a troll
  10. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    I never said that Shah sahib is supporting Dr.Tahir Ul Qadri. I said Sunni ittehad is supporting Pat and Dr.Tahir Ul Qadri. because of their cause. Shah Turabul Haq Qadri Sahib is not a political figure. Sunni Ittehad is a party of ulama and mashaykh. Dont put words in my mouth. They have their differences with him and they will take this up with him. Sunni ittehad is supporting him only because Pat and other parties want to take down corrupt incompetent government who is supporting TTP khawarij. So the socalled Super judge Abdul Qadir. Is Sunni ittehad sunnis or not? Will you also give a fatwa upon them?
  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    that site just has a poster with an alleged saying of Shah Sahab that he does not support nawaz sharif killing innocent people

    nowhere does it say that Shah Sahab pledged support to tahir

    i just got a message back from students of knowledge at Darul Uloom Amjadia in Karachi that it is all damn rumors.

    They said that tahir is a fitnah and neither Shah Sahab has pledged any support nor will they ever support tahir

    in fact if anything, Shah Sahab's message on the linked page just says that those killed were poor civilians hinting that maybe they weren't even minhajians - because there is no such thing as a mureed of tahir who is innocent

    so the so-called sunnimuslim has proven that he is a liar.

    he said Shah Sahab pledged support for tahir, but there is ZERO EVIDENCE for it.

    la3natullahi 3alal kaadhibeen.
  12. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

  13. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    sharam tum ko magar ati nahin. chor bhi bole chor chor. yeh hai tumhara maslak? shame on u. Agar insano main shomar ho to mozu par behas karo nakeh zatiat par ghatya attack karo. Ahlesunnat Maslak ke tum akele thekedar nahin aur na hi tumhara haqq hai keh tum personal attack karo.
  14. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Ahem...(1) seriously flawed reasoning (2) very poor English (3) hiding behind an assumed name (4) bad manners.

    ulta chor kotwaal ko daante.

    I asked you for proof regarding Shah Sahab's statement. where is it? don't keep on deflecting.
  15. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    Mind your language. Dont behave like a kid. Dont be personal. Talk about the issue. When you use this kind of language than you show your background.
  16. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    no proof, same old ranting. wastage of time.
  17. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    Your friend was starting personal attacks. So dont say to me im foul mouthing. U can go in sunni tehreeks page on web than u can see what Shah sahib have said about minhajians. Sunni ittehad is supporting Minhaj ul Quran. Are they not sunnis?
  18. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    First tell me are u legal child of your parents or not than i will tell u im sunni or not. I dont have to belive in your statement that Tahir ul qadri is not a sunni. For me my Pir o murshids command is higher than your fatwa that Tahir is not sunni. For us it is enough that Sunni
    ittehsd supports Minhajs mission. Nawaz sharif is supporting kharjis if u support him than u are also supporting kharjis. U do not have authority to say he sunni and he is not sunni. U should fear Allah and not be extremist.
  19. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    foul mouthing will lead to nothing except hatred.

    please send irrefutable proof that Shah Sahab said this, AND that he used the word "innocent" "minhaajis".

    because "innocent" is - among human beings - used only for the prophets. Shah Sahab is well aware of this aqeedah ruling. (masoom, in Urdu if you like)

    and the word "minhaaji" now means "bad-aqeedah". who are obviously grave sinners.
  20. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i didn't say before that you're not Sunni.

    but if you believe tahir to be a Sunni, then indeed you're not a Sunni.

    nawaz shareef may be what he is, but destroying tahir's fitnah or trying to do so, is a very good thing.

    i asked where did he say that he supports tahir?

    i take it you can't read properly or are dyslexic or something.

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